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another comparison, TO30 vs the 135?

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Rusty Stuff

08-29-2006 13:48:31




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Your answers to my other question tells me the MF135 is a plenty strong tractor that will be a nice machine. How does the TO35 compare to the 135 as far as size and usefullness? I am considering a 135 but just looked at a very nice TO30. Not sure if the TO30 had live pto or not, the owner couldnt tell me. I know it had a high/low range and a 3 speed trans, engine was a rebuild 4 cylinder continental. I will be mostly pulling a bush hog but I need to also run a post hole digger.

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jerrycpp

08-30-2006 08:16:49




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 Re: another comparison, TO30 vs the 135? in reply to Rusty Stuff, 08-29-2006 13:48:31  
As the very happy owner of a Massey Ferguson 135 (3 cylindeer Perkins gas) I would highly recommend it. As far as the TO or MF 35, they are both great tractors. Once you try a tractor with power steering, you'll throw rocks at any without it. I also have an 8N and a TO-20, so I have comparrisons. The other posts have excellent suggestions and opinions, but do keep in mind the power steering situation.

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Dean

08-29-2006 17:29:34




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 Re: another comparison, TO30 vs the 135? in reply to Rusty Stuff, 08-29-2006 13:48:31  
Rusty:

If the tractor that you are now looking at has a dual-range transmission (3 speed main transmission with separate high-low) it is a TO-35 or maybe even a MF-35 rather than a TO-30. If so, it probably has both live PTO and hydraulics. As a Ford 2N owner you will find both of these features very useful.

The TO-35 is nearly identical to the somewhat later MF-35, which is very similar to the MF-135 but usually sells for around $1,000 less.

I have 2 MF-35s with Perkins diesel engines, and like the MF-135, these too are great tractors. Either will do about as much work as either my very good 1955 Ford 860 or my 1964 Ford 4 cylinder 4000 gasoline with Selecto-O-Speed transmission, and use far less fuel doing so. This means that they will do nearly twice the work as your 2N.

As I said, the MF-35 usually sells for $1000 or more less than a MF-135 in similar condition but is nearly the same tractor. You can save yourself some money if you can find a good MF-35 or TO-35.

The MF-35 came with various engines and the most desireable is the 3 cylinder Perkins diesel. They also came with a 4 cylinder Continental gasoline engine and a 4 cylinder Standard Motors diesel. The Standard Motors diesel is notoriously hard to start in cold or even cool weather. I do not believe that the 3 cylinder Perkins gasoline engine was offered in the MF-35.

Where are you? If you are anywhere close, I will let you try out my 35s and compare it to my 860, 4000, or 1951 8N with Sherman combo. You can get a real good idea of how these will work out for you by actually using them.

Dean

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Rusty stuff

08-29-2006 19:09:09




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 Re: another comparison, TO35 vs the 135? in reply to Dean, 08-29-2006 17:29:34  
Dean, thank you very much for the offer, but I am in NY so no luck trying out your machines. I believe it was a TO35, but is there any way to tell if it is a MF35? I am going to compare it to the 135 and see what tractor I like better. Both have the 4 cylinder continental gas engine. The 35 has manual steering, new rubber, but the owner didnt know if it had live PTO or not.



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Dean

08-30-2006 05:08:59




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 Re: another comparison, TO35 vs the 135? in reply to Rusty stuff, 08-29-2006 19:09:09  
Rusty:

There is no significant difference between a TO-35 and a MF-35 so it really doesn't matter. Because most of these tractors have been repainted and many have had "upgraded" decals applied, the only way that I know to conclusively determine which it is is by the serial number.

Dean



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smokey2

08-29-2006 14:40:01




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 Re: another comparison, TO30 vs the 135? in reply to Rusty Stuff, 08-29-2006 13:48:31  
No comparison. The TO30 is only half the tractor the MF135 is. No 2 stage clutch or diff lock, weaker engine, fewer instruments. The MF135 is the one to go for.



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Rusty stuff

08-29-2006 14:55:54




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 Re: another comparison, TO30 vs the 135? in reply to smokey2, 08-29-2006 14:40:01  
Made a mistake, owner says it is a 35HP, so it is a TO35?



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