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MF 165 cooling question

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Dean Dardis

07-23-2000 06:24:53




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I need advice on the correct temp for a MF 165 tractor to be running at under light/medium load -- I�m not convinced I�m circulating water through the engine. Here are some facts: I just purchased a MF 165 and it appears to run great. The temp gauge didn�t work so I replaced it with one from an auto store � it barely comes off the 130-degree mark if it even moves at all, hmmm. I popped the radiator cap off and could see only a small movement of water (could just be heat currents from the top hose and not flow). I felt the top hose and it was warm/hot to the touch. Put my finger in the radiator and it was warm/hot to the touch (I could keep it in there so it�s not super hot). However, when I felt the bottom hose (intake hose to the engine) it was very cool to the touch. I�m concerned that the thermostat is not working correctly but don�t see where it goes to replace it. I know nothing about Diesels or tractors but am a fair weekend mechanic with conventional engines. I need to order a service manual but $$ are short right now and if I can resolve this and validate the fluid levels are properly established I can wait a bit (anyone have advise on which manual to buy? Is the one at this site good?). Would also like any feedback on what fluid levels I should check, where to check them, where to fill them and what to use to top them off�-I already changed the motor oil and filter. Thanks so much for any assistance you may offer...

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Big Jim

07-28-2000 10:44:04




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 Re: MF 165 cooling question in reply to Dean Dardis, 07-23-2000 06:24:53  
I have a MF 165 tractor with a perkins diesel. I can work it hard all day and the temperature gauge barely moves off cold. I wouldn't worry about it unless the tractor overheats. MF 165 is an all around great tractor.



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B.C

07-25-2000 06:15:42




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 Re: MF 165 cooling question in reply to Dean Dardis, 07-23-2000 06:24:53  
It could be that the thermostat is stuck open. The one on our gas MH50 was when we first got it and it never did get very warm.

If you've got a diesel and it's not working much then it'll tend to run cool. Diesels running at low load tend to cool themselves because the air fuel ratio gets very lean. All that extra air is sort of like a fan running inside the engine. You can put your hand (carefully!) on the exhaust manifold of a diesel that's been idling for a while, for example. Such is not the case with a gas engine.

If your thermostat was open or if your engine was really loafing it would definitely run cool.

That's a peach of a tractor...you should spring for the operators' manual.

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Richg

07-25-2000 03:09:17




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 Re: MF 165 cooling question in reply to Dean Dardis, 07-23-2000 06:24:53  
I've had my 165 Dis. for over a year now and have run the snot out of it. It has never gotten hot even after mowing for 12 hours straight. Good luck with yours it's a great tractor!!!!! !!!!! !



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bbott

07-23-2000 14:35:13




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 Re: MF 165 cooling question in reply to Dean Dardis, 07-23-2000 06:24:53  
You wrote..... .

"The temp gauge didn�t work so I replaced it with one from an auto store � it barely comes off the 130-degree mark if it even moves at all"

Did you replace everything ? (Gauge and Sender and sending "cable" ?) If not, you may have a mismatched system... or ???

Either way, I'd pull it out and test it using the kitchen stove, a cooking thermometer and a pan of water. That way you'll have some confidence that what you're seeing on the dashboard is real.

If you haven't run them before, most diesels run VERY cool and effecient compared to a gasoline engine. You have to work 'em pretty good to get them hot. If the radiator has some hot water in it, I'd say you're getting flow from the engine ok. ...your engine may not even be breaking a sweat.

The manuals on this site are reproductions of the original 'factory' set. They've got all the detail you will ever need. I think the 'owners' manual is relatively inexpensive. If you have the $$$ at all, start there, then the service and the parts manuals in that order.

hope this helps. I've got a 165 that was purchased new on the ranch in 1964 and is still 'the man' here.

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