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Anyone ever used lanscaping timbers for fence post

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Dale Brown

06-12-2006 12:28:23




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This is not a massey specific question although I plan to use a Massey to drill the holes. Has anybody ever tried to use landscaping timbers as fence posts? I'm thinking of doing this and thought I would ask if anyone saw anything wrong with this. I'm going to place 'em 8 feet apart and stretch hog wire across them. I plan to keep a couple of mules in them. This is quite a bit cheaper than going with fence posts from tractor supply..... any comments?

Thanks Dale in N.C.

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JDBert

06-21-2006 13:54:12




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 Re: Anyone ever used lanscaping timbers for fence in reply to Dale Brown, 06-12-2006 12:28:23  
I've used them in the past for the same reason you are-$-. Wish now I would have just spent the money and bought the fence post instead. I seem to get about 5 years outa the landscape post. I now try to pic up fence post at farm auctions since 1)Here in MN I cant get creasote post anymore and 2) $. I'm trying to keep in 1500-2000 pound belgians though.



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old

06-12-2006 21:33:38




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 Re: Anyone ever used lanscaping timbers for fence in reply to Dale Brown, 06-12-2006 12:28:23  
I have used the Wal-mart ones more then once for fence post. I would have used 4X4 but sine they cost so much the ones from wal-mart made more since. I used a Cat 950 loader to drive them in and so far they have worked well



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souNdguy

06-12-2006 19:37:23




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 Re: Anyone ever used lanscaping timbers for fence in reply to Dale Brown, 06-12-2006 12:28:23  
I have 2 neighbors in florida that have used them. The key is to get treated ones ( most are treated to some degree ).. and also to get good and dry cured ones. The wet ones always seem to warp... the ones that are dry when you get them seem to hold up fine... and yes.. way cheaper than 4x6x8 or half rounds even.. etc. The flat provides a good nail surface for boards too.

For mules you coula always use metal t-post and the wire.. and then a strand of e-tape. a single man can throw up 300' of tpost and wire before you pass out from heat exhaustion and your arms explode (grin).

One word of advice from a horse owner.... and take it or leave it.. no judgement here.. 4x4 'common' field wire... watch it around equines... I'd advise you run a hot wire around it to keep them away from the fence. A ball of tape and a cheapy solar charge will run you just under a hundred bucks... Equines have a bad habbit of stepping thru 4x4 wire, and then getting their hooves caught... not so with 2x4 wire.. ( 2x4 wire is more spendy though... ) The hotwire will keep them back though.. that tape and charger and a pack of hammer on insulators will make the fence stand up straighter too.. no lenaing onthe fence.. etc.

good luck whichever way you do it..

Soundguy

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Jerry/MT

06-12-2006 15:31:45




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 Re: Anyone ever used lanscaping timbers for fence in reply to Dale Brown, 06-12-2006 12:28:23  
How big in diameter are they and are they pressure treated



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BigMarv1085

06-12-2006 16:04:43




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 Re: Anyone ever used lanscaping timbers for fence in reply to Jerry/MT, 06-12-2006 15:31:45  
I have seen several fences made of landscaping timbers and after a while they start warping. A guy up the road just built one for his horses and within 4 months they have already started warping. When I bought my house they had just redone the flower beds with them and in 5 years the termites have already eaten them up.



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David Bloodwood

06-12-2006 16:22:00




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 Re: Anyone ever used lanscaping timbers for fence in reply to BigMarv1085, 06-12-2006 16:04:43  
I assume you mean 3" x 8" or 4" x 8" sawn timbers. These sizes are commonly used in Australia for rural fencing. Three issues: timber strength, timber durability, and attack by termites.

Strength: the denser hardwoods are certainly strong enough for intermediate posts. I'd use something bigger for strainers though - at least 6 x 6 sawn or about 8" diam poles in dense hardwood, or about 12" diam if softwood.

Durability: Species vary hugely in durability, and you can't go by density. West Red Cedar is super durable for instance (but not very strong). Have to find out the species you have available, and look on the net, or contact your local forestry dept for data. I have data for some common Nth American species. If timbers are pressure treated, they will last at least 20 years, depending on your soil types and conditions.

Termites: Most termites love moisture, so boggy ground is great for them. Some timber species are relatively resistant to termites (tho none entirely so) - again establish species of the timber you have and check its properties. Pressure treatment DOES NOT increase resistance to termite attack (at least in Australia). Also you can use local knowledge to find out whether termites are voracious in your area, and what sort of conditions they tend to go for near you.

Email me if I can help further.
David

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Dale Brown

06-14-2006 10:43:09




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 Re: Anyone ever used lanscaping timbers for fence in reply to David Bloodwood, 06-12-2006 16:22:00  
thanks for the replies. Sounds like I need to do some thinkin'....The timbers are 3x5x8ft and are $3 at Lowes. They are treated. The "fence posts" at tractor supply are $7. The fence is to keep people and other animals out as well as keep the mules in. Otherwise I'd probably use t posts with hotwires. I think I will take your advice and use the 2x4 wire instead of the 4x4 wire.And I'll probably use a hotline on the inside just to keep 'em back.Any other ideas for posts?

Thanks Dale in N.C.

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Mike Mohrhauser

06-14-2006 13:45:51




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 Re: Anyone ever used lanscaping timbers for fence in reply to Dale Brown, 06-14-2006 10:43:09  
I have used green treated timbers for posts and have found that they will still rot.

Mike M.



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