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Massey 135... problems or quirks?

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SCHAP

04-05-2006 22:30:42




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Tomorrow I'm going to look at a Massey 135 to buy. It is a gas engine tractor with a loader for $6000....lower hours. Anyway, are there any particular things I should watch out for or questions I should ask the owner? Any info or tips wouls be helpful. I've never had any experience with a Massey-Ferguson and I'm trying to learn all I can. I've heard they're pretty solid machines.
Thanks....Don

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MF Poor

04-07-2006 05:52:28




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 Re: Massey 135... problems or quirks? in reply to SCHAP, 04-05-2006 22:30:42  
A fair 135 (gas OR diesel) will bring $5000+ without the loader almost anywhere. That might seem high to some people, but they sell. Loader will bring $1000 to $1500 on a good tractor. Price doesn't sound too far off.

As was mentioned, Tennessee?Kentucky area is wild over those tractors. (MF35 135 235/40/45/50, the MF 50 150 65 165 255 all sell fast) You're luck to find one under $5000.(without loader)

Gas tractors in this HP/size range still sell good. I prefer diesel, but others like the gassers.

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Aaron Ford

04-06-2006 19:28:23




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 Re: Massey 135... problems or quirks? in reply to SCHAP, 04-05-2006 22:30:42  
The 135's are notorious for working long hours with very little maintenance. The are also quite known to last a rather long time. 6K is a little high, especially for a gas unless the thing is straighter than a new Lincoln. Parents have had one since 1980-81 and it is still going strong. Aaron



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jerrycpp

04-06-2006 10:41:08




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 Re: Massey 135... problems or quirks? in reply to SCHAP, 04-05-2006 22:30:42  
I bought a 135 Perkins gas with a front blade 5 years ago for $3000. I put on tires, overhauled it, new clutch, and good paint for a total of $6000. I don't know about where you live, but that before and after price is about average here in Central Washington State. As far as the tractor, I'd do it again. I worked for a couple of tractor dealers and repaired them for many years, and the MF tractors have always been my favorite - take good care of it and they are very low maintainence. I also have an 8N and a TO-20 - all good tractors, but the 135 is by far my favorite.

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Lou

04-06-2006 10:22:48




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 Re: Massey 135... problems or quirks? in reply to SCHAP, 04-05-2006 22:30:42  
You should go to Big Deans web site and check out his advice befor buying. Search Big Dean on this board. $6000. is a little high around me even for a diesel.



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Badly Bent

04-06-2006 08:06:03




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 Re: Massey 135... problems or quirks? in reply to SCHAP, 04-05-2006 22:30:42  
The biggest thing I would check initially would be overall condition. I find that a tractor which looks terrible on the outside has normally been neglected on the inside as well. With a loader the weak link on the 135 is the front axle center pivot pin and bushing. I don"t have a loader but replaced that pin and bushing in my tractor last spring. Those front ends were not designed for heavy loads on the loader. I agree with Bill. Here in East TN the prices of tractors, especially utility tractors like the 135, are a little higher than in other areas. I guess there are a lot of folks like me with a few acres and a need for a tractor that can do a lot of different small jobs. Whether or not the 135 you"re going to look at is a good deal depends on many factors. I agree with Jack that if you plan to use it a great deal, diesel is a better option. I have a 135 gas that I use 2-3 hours per week during the summer months and it will burn a good bit of gasoline. I understand that fuel consumption rate of the diesel is about 1/2 of the gas, but my tractor was a good deal, in good shape, and I don"t care to have the added problem of having one machine that is diesel while everything else requires gasoline.
I would think you could probably get a newer loader tractor with a diesel for around the same price or a little more. Tim

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Jack Russel

04-06-2006 07:11:28




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 Thats a LOT of money For it! Re:Massey 135problems in reply to SCHAP, 04-05-2006 22:30:42  
Even if its really nice with that gasoline engine it isnt worth anything like that. $3000 to $4000 TOPS! You will regret that gas engine, fuel costs! get a better price or keep looking there are much better deals than that. If you use a loader a lot the cost of fuel is going to be significant between gas and diesel. Gas is dead fuel as a farm tractor fuel. It isnt the price of the fuel but the amount they use, gas consumption could be as twice as much. I know I have both, all my gas ones are parked for good! JR

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Jack Russel

04-06-2006 07:06:51




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 Thats a LOT of money For it! Re:Massey 135problems in reply to SCHAP, 04-05-2006 22:30:42  
Even if its really nice with that gasoline engine it isnt worth anything like that. $3000 to $4000. get a better price or keep looking there are much better deals than that. If you use a loader a lot the cost of fuel is going to be significant between gas and diesel. Gas is dead fuel as a farm tractor fuel. It isnt the price of the fuel but the amount they use, gas consumption could be as twice as much. I know I have both, all 6the gas ones are parked for good! JR

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mark from the fort

04-06-2006 04:57:08




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 Re: Massey 135... problems or quirks? in reply to SCHAP, 04-05-2006 22:30:42  
I'd assume since it has a loader, it has live P.T.O (but, never assume anything) Make sure it DOES have live p.t.o. Two stage clutch, I don't know the year, but it must be very nice for that price. Check engine oil-any milky or odd color besides black or deep brown could be sign of cracked block. Check diff. oil before starting, and after warmed up. Should not be milky colored.
Let her warm-up, try hydraulics (rear and loader)
Turn off tractor with loader up--see if she stays for long while, if possible, put implement on rear and do same. My father would always insist that his fergies would take off in high 3rd gear at idle speed (feathering the clutch) With loader, it'd be a plus to have power steering. Power steering should be smooth, not jerky. Any obvious oil leaks-you know what that mean--they won't go away by themselves. Short bursts on the throttle from idle to 3/4 full and look for excessive puffs of black smoke. I take a socket along and each plug and take a look. I'm sure others will jump in here and give more tips--I'll look forward to those as well. Mark. p.s. They are great little tractors.

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Bill in TN

04-06-2006 07:37:34




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 Re: Massey 135... problems or quirks? in reply to mark from the fort, 04-06-2006 04:57:08  
Depending on what part of the country your in, $6000 wouldn't necessarily be to high if the tractor has low hours and is in good shape. It appears to me that 135's are bringing more money here in SE Tennessee than they are in other parts of the country.

Not wanting to slam anybody, but I see a lot of opinions on prices but when I go look I can never find a tractor for what other people tell me they're worth. I guess I'm just not a good shopper, or the tractors just bring more around here.

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