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MF135 Broke the bolt

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John Caldwell

03-22-2006 07:34:31




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I finally bought a new horizontal muffler and exhaust pipe for my 1965 MF135 Continental Gas. The exhaust pipe has a triangular shaped flange that fits over three (7/16" NC, x 1-3/4") double ended studs that screw into the flange on the exhaust manifold. A 7/16" bolt on each stud holds the exhaust pipe on the exhaust manifold. I sprayed on some liquid wrench, let it sit for a few hours and put the socket wrench on the first nut, but it wouldn't budge. Added a small length of pipe for added torque and promptly snapped off the stud, which left one of the threaded ends still inside the exhaust manifold flange. I'm reluctant to try the other two at this point. Anyone know what I should do? How do I get the snapped off piece out of the exhaust manifold flange? and what can I do to get the nuts off those old rusted studs without snapping them off?

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Aaron Ford

03-24-2006 20:25:02




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 Re: MF135 Broke the bolt in reply to John Caldwell, 03-22-2006 07:34:31  
I should mention that a new manifold for this particular engine is not only available but is also quite affordable. Like less than 100 bucks. If all else fails.... Aaron



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KJAKX

03-22-2006 15:33:05




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 Re: MF135 Broke the bolt in reply to John Caldwell, 03-22-2006 07:34:31  
Weld a nut onto the stud. Then you can use an impact wrench to remove it. It is what we do here and works 90-95% of the time. When you put the new one on, use BRASS nuts. this will help when/if you ever have to remove it again. (Tree limbs love to break these things off!)



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Tom G (OK)

03-22-2006 14:44:23




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 Re: MF135 Broke the bolt in reply to John Caldwell, 03-22-2006 07:34:31  
I like all those suggestions.

The only additional one I have is to try an EZ-OUT.

Lots of people I talk to just hate those things, and I did too! They NEVER worked! That is, until I actually read the directions.

The trick that I discovered is to use exactly the size drill called for on the tool. It's usually printed (stamped) on the side of the tool. Just drill it out as close to the center as you can, tap in the EZ-OUT, soak it with solvent (a day or two would be nice) and gently back the stud out. It always works for me, now!

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Dean

03-22-2006 10:53:01




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 Re: MF135 Broke the bolt in reply to John Caldwell, 03-22-2006 07:34:31  
Super has given you good advice.

After you replace the studs, be sure to use readily available brass double thickness nuts. If you do, the job will be a snap next time.

Though it is after the fact now, had you heated the nuts cherry red and/or used an impact wrench, it is likely that the nuts would have loosened.

Dean



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RT (seTX)

03-22-2006 10:08:53




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 Re: MF135 Broke the bolt in reply to John Caldwell, 03-22-2006 07:34:31  
I've had success with welding a nut to what's left of the stud and then turning it out. The welding heat seems to help free the threads.



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supergrumpy

03-22-2006 10:01:01




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 Re: MF135 Broke the bolt in reply to John Caldwell, 03-22-2006 07:34:31  
those studs are usually a fraction of their original size and badly corroded, for a top notch job replace all the studs and use brass nuts

my suggestion: try to grind away one side of the nut with angle grinder or Dremel tool, then use small sharp chisel to get rest of the nut off, that will get your flange off

likely have to heat 2 remaining studs to get them out of the maniford, don't let the torch ruin anything down under there, that gives you bit more room to work

if you are lucky, some of that broken stud will be sticking out, get it cherry red and see if channellocks will get her loose

this job is lot easier with manifold off tractor and in a vise but that makes it whole different job

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garvas

03-22-2006 09:32:56




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 Re: MF135 Broke the bolt in reply to John Caldwell, 03-22-2006 07:34:31  
If possible buy some "PB Blast". Auto supply stores, Travtor Supply and sometime Walmart carries this stuff. Best I have ever seen for helping remove rusted bolts and nuts. Spray very well let set overnight, then give it a try. It has always worked for me. As far as the broken one. Center punch the end of the bolt and drill out using small drill. I alwys start with a very small one and work up to larger bits until it comes out. Take your time..... . Lots Luck

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