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Handling rear wheels

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David Bloodwood

01-25-2006 15:46:11




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I have to do brakes on my MF65, so have to remove the rear wheels. I'm out in the bush - don't have concrete floor or trolley jack. But am used to handling 2 ton logs - which lie very safely on the ground when you're not looking at them. And have lots of building timber available.
Any hints/techniques for handling these 1/2 ton upright buggers which can roll any which way? Thought of knocking together a cradle to run on rollers on timber planks set on the ground. I could strap the wheel to the cradle, then roll it way from tractor.
thanks in advance
David

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wolfman

01-26-2006 16:21:05




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 Re: Handling rear wheels in reply to David Bloodwood, 01-25-2006 15:46:11  
If you're working by yourself, You might consider a nearby tree or shed rafter and use a rope block to help keep the monster upright. A trick that I use is to let the jack help me by using it to lift the tractor & the wheel just so i can swing the bottom out away from tractor, then when tire stands back upright plumb, it's already out a few inches away from tractor where I can roll it. Roll it ever so slowly because the calcium sways like liquid does & the tread makes it roll non-smoothly. If you have another tractor with pigpole or front loader use it. Careful. Rolling a 1000 lb object will test your confidence. I usually yell for my 6 ft 8in 325 lb son! Problem is that he lives 90 miles away! Probably lives there so that he can't here me yell!

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David Bloodwood

01-26-2006 13:06:50




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 Re: Handling rear wheels in reply to David Bloodwood, 01-25-2006 15:46:11  
Hey guys thanks for all this info. My tyres are water-filled with the heavy cast hubs - max weight! I'm in sub-tropical northern NSW, so no risk of ice. Thanks Aaron Ford for detals about handling the axle housings - I didn't realise they'd be so heavy.
Thanks again
David



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DavidP, South Wales

01-26-2006 12:11:13




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 Re: Handling rear wheels in reply to David Bloodwood, 01-25-2006 15:46:11  
Hello,
First of all, DON'T attempt to do anything on your own. If you should have an accident you may be stuck.
I don't know how popular ballasting the rear wheels is around the world so make sure that the tyres are not filled with water. If you take one off and it is filled with water, it will give you a nasty surprise. If you have ordinary pressed steel centres the wheels are not too heavy provided that you find the 'balance point first and all movements are small and precise to move it to somewhere that you can lean it safely. This is where you need a second pair of hands even if it is your good lady. If you start to loose it, RUN AWAY you won't stop it. Once you have the tractor safely jacked, a sound platform of timber that will allow you to slide each housing out should be OK. If it is on the platform it can't fall any further. It will be a difficult job. Think about what you are doing first. Good luck. Where are you by the way?

DavidP South Wales

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GaryF

01-26-2006 08:42:05




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 Re: Handling rear wheels in reply to David Bloodwood, 01-25-2006 15:46:11  
Safety is the priority. After supporting the rear axle and unbolting mine from the hub I roll it and wiggle (the wheel!)back and forth untill the wheel clears the axle studs. Then I usually lean the wheel between the front wheel and tractor. Does your MF65 have cast centers? They create an imbalancewith more weight being on the outside of the wheel. If will want to fall towards you!
You will need to support your tractor from under the center casting so that you have clearance to roll trumpet casting section away for access axle and brakes. This is not an easy job to do on uneven ground out in the bush.
Don't take any chances.
Gary

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Aaron Ford

01-26-2006 07:43:24




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 Re: Handling rear wheels in reply to David Bloodwood, 01-25-2006 15:46:11  
Your tire problems are the least of your worries. The axle trumpet, if removed intact is more than two people can handle. My suggestion is to jack up the rear of the tractor under the rear end. Leave room to install jackstands. Install jackstands and remove hydraulic jack. Remove tire. Tractor should stabilize on the other tire and the jackstands. Then place two 8 inch cinderblocks inline under the axle. Place a short 2x12 (or so) on these as a runner for the jack. Using a second 2x12 (wider is better) running from the front axle (strapped down), to under the rear axle to stabilize the beast. Now place hydraulic jack on runner and lift the axle via the second 2x12. This configuration raises the jack to the axle and creates a trolley track for the jack to roll on. The 2x12 coming back from the front suspension stabilizes the axle and prevents it from rolling off the jack.

A cherry picker (engine hoist) would be preferable, but as I don't have one I had to improvise. I purchased my 2.5 ton jack and stands from Sears for $29 bucks. I had the 2x12s.

An option would be to disassemble the planetary and shed some weight, but that requires new seals and resetting the .010 interference in the planetary. The brakes can be had for $24 a disc from MF or $12 a disc from Stevens (304)372-5200 Ripley, WV.

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Jim - Illinois

01-26-2006 07:24:45




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 Re: Handling rear wheels in reply to David Bloodwood, 01-25-2006 15:46:11  
Rig up something to carry the weight. I have used a loader tractor that couldn't lift the tire, but it helped hold the tire straight up and draged it to the shed post to hold it up. Make sure you have a counter weight in the tractor 3 point. It may not be OSHA approved, but a bunch better than nothing. Hook your chain as close as you can. Good luck and be carefull. Once they fall on the ground, it takes a lot to pick them back up. (Or to pick them off of you!)

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Rod in Smiths Falls, ON,

01-26-2006 04:56:30




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 Re: Handling rear wheels in reply to David Bloodwood, 01-25-2006 15:46:11  
Make sure there is no ice underfoot when you are handling them.



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Willy-N

01-25-2006 19:50:44




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 Re: Handling rear wheels in reply to David Bloodwood, 01-25-2006 15:46:11  
I have big 18.4 X 16s 3/4 full tires on my MF135 and they are heavy buggers. I weight 130 lbs and have rolled them around befor. Biggest problem is not moving them fast and don't even try to stop them if they start to fall over. Keep them up right and on level ground and you should be OK. Mark H.



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