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massey 2135 hydraulic lift pump

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Andy VA

01-24-2006 20:27:17




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I just purchased my first tractor, a massey 2135. I was told it was a 135, but after reading the forums on here I believe it is an 2135 because it has foot mounted accelerator pedal and diff lock pedal. Haven't found the serial # yet, not sure where it is. The tractor has a sickle bar mower mounted on the side with a hydrulic pump mounted on the front of the tractor, and the seller told me that the rear lift bars won't work becuse there is no pump installed from the factory. Also the pto has a cap over it, does the cap simply come off? Does anyone know what I need to do to be able to use the 3 point lift and pto system?

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Andy VA

01-25-2006 19:59:10




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 Re: massey 2135 hydraulic lift pump in reply to Andy VA, 01-24-2006 20:27:17  
The tractor has a quadrent with two levers next to the seat. I bought it from the state department and the mechanic said they ordered it without the hydrualic pump for the lift bars because they weren"t going to use it anyways. They mounted the auxilary pump on the front of the tractor to run the sickle bar mower, and I guess it"s driven off the front of the crankshaft. It has everything in the back for the lift system (bottom bars, top rotating arms}but they welded the bottom bars to the back of the tractor so they woudn"t swing around. I can rotate the top arms with my hand, is this normal. I"m just wondering if I can just install the factory pump, and where does it go.

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Big Dean

01-27-2006 11:11:12




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 Re: massey 2135 hydraulic lift pump in reply to Andy VA, 01-25-2006 19:59:10  
Before I bought a pump for it I would remove the access plate with the dipstick and response lever in it you can see if the pump is there. I just have a problem believing if it has all of that other stuff for the three point it would not have a pump. Usually when they come without a pump they have a 1/4'' plate under the seat you have the quadrant so you have the liftcover.



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Big Dean

01-25-2006 17:25:45




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 Re: massey 2135 hydraulic lift pump in reply to Andy VA, 01-24-2006 20:27:17  
Hi Andy Like Tom G says the MF2135 is basically an Industrial version of the MF135 farm tractor. Most of the MF2135s came from the factory with the three point pump and liftcover installed. If they had backhoes on them the upper and lower lift arms usually were not installed. If I can be of further help email me

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Tom G (OK)

01-25-2006 15:37:56




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 Re: massey 2135 hydraulic lift pump in reply to Andy VA, 01-24-2006 20:27:17  
I have had a 2135 (gas) for about five years and I'm very happy with it as far as the functioning of the tractor goes. It's pretty old (~40 yrs) so it's fairly crotchety, but it still works.

My understanding is that the only real difference between the 135 and the 2135 is the front end. The 2135 has a one piece front axle which pivots in the middle (around the drive shaft). It is a heavy beam made up of a "U" channel about 3" by 6" tall. The open part of the "U" is closed up with a welded plate (that's on the bottom of the axle). On either end of the axle are welded ~18" of ~4" pipe for the wheels to rotate (steer) in.

My understanding is that you don't want to put a front loader on a regular 135 because the axle can't handle the load.

The 2135 TURF has another axle. It appears to be a three piece (cast) beam which can be adjusted for the width of the front end.

You can also check to see if it's a 2135 by looking at the color. The 135 is red and gray and black and the 2135 is yellow. You might try scratching the paint to see what's under it.

Although I'm really a tractor novice, I'm positively flabbergasted that your tractor doesn't have a lift system. My owner's manual does mention it as optional, but then, air conditioning is optional in most cars and you don't see many without air conditioning anymore. does it have a quadrant just to the right of the seat? That's one or two levers which rotate between straight up and forward. if you have those, then you should have a lift. If you don't have a lift, I can't see any reason to have a three-point! If you decide that you really DO have a lift, but it just doesn't work, don't despair, it won't be outrageously expensive to fix (or even replace) it.

As for the hydraulic pump, is it driven by the drive-shaft? If so, that may have been intended for a front-loader. Does the hydraulic pump drive the sickle?

If you don't mind my asking, What'd you pay for it? Just tracking the value of mine.

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jogl

01-25-2006 03:00:17




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 Re: massey 2135 hydraulic lift pump in reply to Andy VA, 01-24-2006 20:27:17  
Re. pto:

Our 175 has a guard (looks like a heavy duty pop can with a square on the end to get a wrench on) over the pto shaft. It turns right off.



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