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overhaul perkins3 cyl with welded block

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Don Br.

12-17-2005 06:50:21

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I am going to overhaul my massey 35 with the perkins diesel.The block was welded on the side between the expansion plugs when I bought the tractor.Looks like they did a good job,has never leaked.Should a person try and find another block or go ahead and rebuild this one?
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Don

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Willy-N

12-19-2005 20:39:29

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Re: I have a good block in reply to Don Br., 12-17-2005 06:50:21

I have a good 3 cyl Perkins block you could have for $200.00 plus shipping. They are a heavy bugger to lift even with all the parts off it. Not sure if it could go by UPS probley weighs over 150 lbs? It has the main caps, no crank or liners, bare block only everything removed and un bolted from it. Email me if your interested. Mark H.

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Don Br.

12-17-2005 10:01:34

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Re: overhaul perkins3 cyl with welded block in reply to Don Br., 12-17-2005 06:50:21

Jack
Thats exactly where mine is cracked.The guy I bought it from said the perkins blocks were prone to crack there from vibration,(dont know if that is true or not).Think I will just rebuild this block,dont know how hard it would be to find another block anyway.True about MF dealer parts(HIGH)
Thanks, Don

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Jack in NB

12-17-2005 09:15:54

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Re: overhaul perkins3 cyl with welded block in reply to Don Br., 12-17-2005 06:50:21

Hi Don -

My first 35 Perkins had a block that had been welded on the water jacket behind the injector pump. About a 3" x 8" patch.

No abnormal wear showed up at overhaul, indicating no cylinder hole distortion or bearing distortion, so we rebuilt.

Successfully.

Ran for 25 years, replaced about 3 years ago with a drop-in from a carcasse we picked up at a dealer bankruptcy auction and overhauled.

As an aside, I repaired that original with Genuine MF parts. Cost $150/hole for sleeves, pistons. Plus plus. Shortly after that, found Vapormatic sources; my next overhaul (on my second Perkins - I like worn-out tractors to fix up!) cost $50 per hole. Plus a lot less for gaskets, seals, etc. And the Vapormatic parts seemed to last every bit as well as the Genuine MF parts.

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Rick in NB

12-17-2005 20:58:17

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Re: overhaul perkins3 cyl with welded block in reply to Jack in NB, 12-17-2005 09:15:54

Hi Jack,
A fellow resident of the of the frozen mainland of Atlantic Canada ;-)

Where did you get the Vapormatic parts? Both I and a buddy of mine have FE35"s with the A152 Perkins but his may be looking for rebuild sooner than later.

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GaryF

12-17-2005 13:27:32

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Re: overhaul perkins3 cyl with welded block in reply to Jack in NB, 12-17-2005 09:15:54

Jack...When my AD3-152 was overhauled 2 years ago it got the earlier style Vapourmatic pistons (from the 100 series)the sticker on the box said Made in England. My engine starts at -8 C with no assist after sitting for a few days outside. The guy that walked me thru the rebuild has used Vapourmatic for some time and said they were as good as Perkins or MF.
He told me there was a way of repairing that crack. First you had to drill a small hole at each end of crack them pound in a type of rivet (brass?)The block was heated in the area then there was a powertool that you would use to"hammer" the casting so that it overlapped.
I was not to clear on the exact procedure but he told me that many were repaired this way with a high success rate. I can get more details for you Don if you wanted.
Also he said that because it was a exterior water jacket leak that pressure was was not the big issue

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