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M.F. 65 Brakes

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Eric in IL

12-02-2005 15:16:55




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I have a 1960 model 65, bought it in 1966 overhauled twice and just love it. Several years ago a dealer put new brakes on it. When it came home it had some gear slop noise on right wheel. I never addressed the problem as the noise wasn't that bad. This summer the right brake started dragging. I stopped for about an hour to let things cool and haven't had a problem since. I am thinking of putting new brakes on it this winter. Is it a big job? Can I eliminate the gear slop noise while I have it apart?

Thanks in advance!

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NEsota

12-12-2005 20:54:22




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 Re: M.F. 65 Brakes in reply to Eric in IL, 12-02-2005 15:16:55  
If you overhauled the engine you can replace the brakes, I did, but make sure you have a manual. The Bill B. post will help too. As I understand system the balls he talked about, allow a power boost due to the momentum going in both directions but that explanation is beyond my power of expression.



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Bill Brox

12-07-2005 13:13:01




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 Re: M.F. 65 Brakes in reply to Eric in IL, 12-02-2005 15:16:55  
Hi there.

A MF 65 has disc brakes. On each side there is 2 discs. The disc consists of a steel plate with inner splines that goes on the axle shaft. There is holes in the plates, and the brake material is riveted to the plates on each side of it.
In the middle between the two plates there is 2 thick steel plates, forged I think. Between those plates there is 5 ball bearing balls... just the balls. The are placed in corresponding grooves in the plates. Then the 2 plates are put together, and to keep them in place they have 3 very short coil springs. These springs keep the plates as tight together as possible. The grooves in the plates where the balls are places is formed so that if you turn one plate the balls rolls in the grooves and press the plates away from each other. And when that happens, they press against the brake materials that spins around when the axle rotates. This is causing the braking. It is difficult to explain without any picture.
The problem you had with the brakes dragging can be cause by a rather common problem these brakes have. If you brake a lot, and they get warm, the hardening on the coil springs goes away due to too much heat. Then they slackens, and they do not keep the forged steel plates close together. When you hit the brake pedal a little, the brake material touches the forged steel plates, and they goes on by themselves, and the coil springs is not longer strong enough to drag them away from the braking material. And they will be dragging.

So, if you want to overhaul the brakes, you will at least need new coil springs, and they are very cheap and easy to replace once you have it apart.

The bearing noise, I have it on my MF 65 too.. on the right side. It lays in the planetary reduction gear, and that is not so easy to repair. You need a shop manual for it, and you need a large hydraulic press, new bearings of course, and you need to shim it up correctly.

Rather tricky.

An MF dealer will do it for you too.


Bill

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Bob N.Y.

12-03-2005 14:41:53




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 Re: M.F. 65 Brakes in reply to Eric in IL, 12-02-2005 15:16:55  
The 65 has inboard, double disc brakes. It is NOT a 10 minute job to fix them. The axle trumpet has to come off. The noise you mentioned could be related to the brake or it could also be coming from the planetary final drive that is right inside the wheel. I suggest that you jack up that side of the tractor and rotate the wheel back and forth to locate the noise.



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Rod in Smiths Falls, ON,

12-02-2005 20:24:54




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 Re: M.F. 65 Brakes in reply to Eric in IL, 12-02-2005 15:16:55  
On a MF35 my mechanic charged me 5 hours of labour to do brakes and axle seals. Parts came to $130 CDN. The 35 has drum brakes. I don't know if the 65 has drums or disks.

Could I do the brakes myself? Yes, but I'd have to be very careful removing and replacing the wheels. They weigh a lot and can easily pin the unwary, especially on a slippery floor.



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