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Massey Ferguson 50 - Need Opinions

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Mattdog

10-21-2005 12:39:35

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I know nothing about tractors...I have 10 acres, 7 of which is brush. I've been paying a local farmer to cut it for me, but am interested in getting a tractor to do it myself, along with some personal farming. A local "dealer" (used equipment only) has a gas MF-50 that appears to be in nice shape (no leaks, no smoke, everything works, 2 owner, 3100 hrs.).

I'm wondering what peoples experience's are with the MF-50. From reading some posts, I've gathered that the MF-135 is peoples small tractor of choice, but I don't have one locally available. Does the 50 have a good reputation?

He's asking $4500, which seems high compared to what little I've read, but I think there should be significant room for negotiation.

One thing I noticed is that the 3-point is pretty slow on the downward movement. Is this a problem? Are there any other typical issues these MF-50 models encounter?

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

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Leroy

10-22-2005 18:23:05

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Re: Massey Ferguson 50 - Need Opinions in reply to Mattdog, 10-21-2005 12:39:35

I would not be afraid of it and as I don't like a desiel I myself would prefer the gas. The 3 point is not made with down pressure, just the weight of the implement to put the lift arms down. Did it have weight on them? on the 30 that I had pluss the 2N, 9N, NAA, 4000, 5000 Fords that I had at times you would have to posh the arms down by hand for hookup, to me that indicates a good hydrolic system. The 35 was the low utility tractor while the 50 was the same power train just slightly heavier built and was avaible in a utility type or the High version that could have a wide front axle or narrow tricycle type dual front wheels or single front wheel. It was rated at about 35PTO HP and should handle a 5' mower good and it may also have a live (2 stage clutch) PTO with a 6 speed tranny. That same gas engine was used from the first TO35 thru the F35 and F40 and into the 50 searies

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Lou

10-22-2005 08:47:07

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Re: Massey Ferguson 50 - Need Opinions in reply to Mattdog, 10-21-2005 12:39:35

Mattdog, I have owned a MF 50 with the 3 cyl Perkins diesel for about 10 yrs, Its a very good tractor. Certainly older but comperable to the 135 with the same motor.The gas engines are not as well thought of, as others have posted. $4500 would be a little steep around here for a 50, but dealer get more than you or I would, as a rule. My brother has a 135, we argue as to which is better, and the beat goes on. Good luck. Lou

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ben uk

10-22-2005 04:16:40

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Re: Massey Ferguson 50 - Need Opinions in reply to Mattdog, 10-21-2005 12:39:35

if you want the most reliable tractor ever, get aa 135 with the perkins diesel in it.

honestly, you wont beat it. Worth the wait to find one.

if its the same as the UK 35 4 cylinder they are bastards to start cold. I think it is, except industrial?

the slow downward hydraulicvs could be lots of things. Could be thick oil (was it cold? did they get faster as the tractor warmed?) Could also be much more complicated.

Ben

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Christos

10-21-2005 22:45:48

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Re: Massey Ferguson 50 - Need Opinions in reply to Mattdog, 10-21-2005 12:39:35

Mattdog, The MF 50 is the row crop version of the MF 35 (which is a utility tractor). The same is true for the MF 135 and 150. What I mean is they both share the same engines, but the 50/150 has the 65/165 height and overall design. I can't judge the price though - I have a 135 and it was inherited and its rebuild is going to cost about 3,5k. I would think in terms of it this way - the three point could be indicative of more serious problems, might be something stupid. Me personally, what I would do is see if I couldn't find a 150 or alternatively a 165. If you can get one with the Perkins engine (gas or diesel) in terms of engine part availibity, its greater and cheaper than the Continental Motors Engine that most Gas Deluxe 35/up to 1967 135 came with. Continental Parts are expensive and hard to find - I had to call all over Ohio to find my replacement bare block. If you find a 135/150/165 with the Perkins in it - it also means its relatively newer than the 50 - which might be another consideration. However it is your call as to how you spend your money - either way with a MF you can't go wrong they were the Caddies of the Farm Field (and cost that much too back in the day) I would encourage you to expand your options if you have the ability to do so. I hope this helps

Christos

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DHall

10-21-2005 22:10:19

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Re: Massey Ferguson 50 - Need Opinions in reply to Mattdog, 10-21-2005 12:39:35

Hi Mattdog I have a 1962 MF.50 that I pulled out of a fence row and completly rebuilt ($275) I had to cut trees down to get it out. I have used it now for about four years and it has been a good tractor. I have a loader on the tractor and use it to mow about 25 acers with a 6Ft bushhog which will load the tractor in heavy grass. I think a 5Ft would be better over all. The price does sound a little high for my area. Hope this helps

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phillip d

10-21-2005 17:06:40

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Re: Massey Ferguson 50 - Need Opinions in reply to Mattdog, 10-21-2005 12:39:35

Hi,Mattdog,for that kind of money why not concider a diesel,more fuel efficient, longer lasting,no carb,plugs,wires ect.?

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Mattdog

10-24-2005 12:14:30

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Re: Massey Ferguson 50 - Need Opinions in reply to phillip d, 10-21-2005 17:06:40

Thanks for all the feedback...much appreciated!

One of my problems is that there aren't alot of local options for a tractor that fits my needs/budget. I've found a bunch on ebay and other internet boards, but they are generally very far away...so i can't see them, and I have to pick them up.

Several locals have told me a gas is better than a deisel for my needs...not sure why.

Is the fact that the exhaust runs underneath the tractor something to be concerned about? (e.g. cutting a row of high rasberries down).

Again, thanks for the input...I don't know if I'm gonna negotiate with this guy, or wait and see what Spring brings tot he market.

p.s. It seems that tractor prices here in lower michigan are relatively high wneh compared to other parts of the country.

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Jimmysisson

10-31-2005 08:46:46

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Re: Massey Ferguson 50 - Need Opinions in reply to Mattdog, 10-24-2005 12:14:30

I had a Massey Harris 50 over 30 years ago, I think it was a 1958 build. Bought for $2,800 in 1972. It had an industrial loader and a backhoe, crude but worked well, if slow. The tractor and loader were just great. Continental gas started in bitter cold without a block heater and ran fine. I built a house and barn with it, and raised up a couple of barn timber frames with the loader. Fella I sold it to (I think I got $3,200 in 1980)still has it and uses it regularly for odd jobs. I had to put in a clutch but nothing else in 9 years. I don't know if the MF 50 is the same unit or not, but I wouldn't be afraid of it. The low exhaust is not a problem except when hooking up implements you get it in the face.
I just sold my 1974 135, also a very reliable machine. My memory is fuzzy I'm sure but I thought the 50 was just as good and more power. I like the diesel better for holding back a load of cordwood on a downhill, though.
Jim

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