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Massey Pressed Steel Rim Surgery

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Massey Harris G

09-30-2005 12:57:55




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Im almost ready to get new tires on the back of my 44 and it has pressed steel rims. But the one rim was either rusted away or damaged somehow and they cut the lug pattern off the old one, cut a corrusponding piece out of a good rim and welded everything back together making a good rim.
I just purchased a parts 44 and it has good centers on both but the outer rims are in really bad shape. Now the question is, can I grind off the old rivits on the welded rim and a rim with a good center and swap the outer pieces and then rivit them back together? I really dont like the way that welded rim looks and I dont want to get new tires and then later on swap rims. Has anyone successfully done this? and any advice would be appreciated!
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Frank Y

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Massey Harris Guy

10-02-2005 15:14:23




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 Re: Massey Pressed Steel Rim Surgery in reply to Massey Harris Guy, 09-30-2005 12:57:55  
Thanks for the advice guys. Not too sure if its going to happen though. I was out today scouting the situation out with a wire wheel and found that the rim that has a good center is cracked through the lug pattern, and the other rim has a really rusted where it meets the outer rim. Looks like I might have to splurge for new rims and tires. Mine are really worn but they will last a little yet. Thanks for the help.

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msb

10-01-2005 19:50:35




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 Re: Massey Pressed Steel Rim Surgery in reply to Massey Harris Guy, 09-30-2005 12:57:55  
Sure you can.I am in the process of doing one.A new 10/38 rim is $179 from www.millertire.com.They also have the 7/16" rivets you will need. Grind off the tack welds and then grind off the rivet heads.Punch the old rivets out.Remove the centers and then grind them down where they were riveted since the original riveting process distorts the center a bit.Lay the new/used rim on a good flat surface and put the center(also flat on the floor) in with attention to where the tube stem hole goes.Tack weld (about 3/4")the rim to the center.Be sure the weld doesn't distort the center position since a weld will draw the center up.Its best to scribe a line where everything goes before welding.Use a 7/16" centering punch to make the rivet holes to be drilled if using a new rim.Then drill the holes.Use a 9/16" or larger bit to bevel the rivet hole.Cut the rivets to length since the rivets will be too long.I use a piece of 1/2" pipe and a 1/2" bolt and nut to make a jig to hold the rivets in place when hammering them down.Place the pipe on the opposite rivet to hold the pipe in place.If you heat the rivets with a torch they will be easy to flatten and will be tighter when they cool down.Grind them smooth to keep them from damaging the tube.
If you are using an old rim then I would rivet one hole in each web before tack welding the rim to the center.

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Harris Guy

10-01-2005 11:00:24




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 Re: Massey Pressed Steel Rim Surgery in reply to Massey Harris Guy, 09-30-2005 12:57:55  
Depending on production year, the pressed centers
were often welded, as well as rivited together. A
power chisel worked well on the front rims, this should work on the rear rims, even with more weld. Better to test on your least important area
before any costly lessons begin.



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