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MF Tractor for a Loader (70's Vintage Series)

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TWM

09-26-2005 12:41:41




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What would be a good tractor for a loader? Would like it to have a cab, good hp for other jobs like planting and snowblowing, and would need to have good hydraulics. I like the styling of the old 1085-1105-1135-1155's. We use to have a 1155 as our main tractor and traded it for a 2745 years ago. Was a mistake and a half, but it wasn't my decision. Currently only have a Farmall M with trip loader for a loader tractor. Also would like to not have to take the duals off the 2745 for planting and snowblowing. Would the 1135 be good? Does it have good hydraulics?

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Luke Haefs

09-29-2005 11:15:02




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 Re: MF Tractor for a Loader (70's Vintage Series) in reply to TWM, 09-26-2005 12:41:41  
Any of the 1100 series would make a good loader tractor. From what we've seen around here, the 1085's have a problem with hydralics. The 1100 series have good heavy duty hyd. pumps and are stretched out a little more for better stability. Plus if you ever run into motor problems with them, it's really easy to put a Combine motor into them. We just bought a 510 Combine in excellant shape for $1000.00 and pulled the motor and put it in our 1965 1100. The rest of the combine will be parted out for our 550 combine. The amount of parts we've taken off already has covered the original purchase price. Also there's several quick tach loaders on the market for the 1100 series tractors. Just drive into them and pin them and hook up the hydralics and go.

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TWM

09-29-2005 19:49:09




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 Re: MF Tractor for a Loader (70's Vintage Series) in reply to Luke Haefs, 09-29-2005 11:15:02  
Thanks

Do you know who markets those loaders? That would seem to be convenient.



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Luke Haefs

09-30-2005 19:19:34




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 Re: MF Tractor for a Loader (70's Vintage Series) in reply to TWM, 09-29-2005 19:49:09  
The dealers that make the loaders are Koyer, Allied, Big Bend, and Case IH. This is just a some of the dealers that make them. Around here the Allied loaders are the most common.



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TWM

09-30-2005 19:57:36




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 Re: MF Tractor for a Loader (70's Vintage Series) in reply to Luke Haefs, 09-30-2005 19:19:34  
Koyker is a familiar name. We have a Koyker auger, I believe my MM UTE had a Koyker loader on it at one time, and a neighbors Case has a Koyker loader on it.

What about Dual?



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Luke Haefs

10-03-2005 16:11:12




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 Re: MF Tractor for a Loader (70's Vintage Series) in reply to TWM, 09-30-2005 19:57:36  
I'am not shure if they do or not all you could do is ask.



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TWM

09-29-2005 04:54:12




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 Re: MF Tractor for a Loader (70's Vintage Series) in reply to Don-Wi, 09-28-2005 20:42:29  
Hi,

What seperates a utility from a row crop? Wheel width? I was thinking at least 100 HP, so as to be able to use it for other operations on the farm (but it wouldn't be necessary at all times). There is an 1105 at the nearest dealer, but they're asking close to $10k for it. I don't think the turbo'd 1135 would be necessary for loader work so the 1105 would work great. I don't know how easy or difficult it would be to mount/remove a loader on one of these tractors, but I would think if you would do any field work you wouldn't want one on for several reasons. So that would make the cheaper, less hp models look better. I was originally hoping I could find something with a cab to use for planting, snowblowing, and loader work, and maybe use on the stalk chopper. But i'd imagine a big loader like that would take a lot of weight from the rear end if it was left mounted and wouldn't be much good for anything but loader work. I'm going to have to rethink what I want. It would be a waste to have a 100+ hp tractor and not be able to use it for anything besides loader work.

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Don-Wi

09-29-2005 20:04:50




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 Re: MF Tractor for a Loader (70's Vintage Series) in reply to TWM, 09-29-2005 04:54:12  
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The 285 is a low-profile, sitting-on-the-transmission type, where the 1085 is on a raised platform and normally has a cab. 95% of the 285's are open station. For our 285, my dad bought a weather break for it back when it was new, they were made by Femco who are still in business and we bought one from them for our 1855 Oliver this past year. They work quite well to bring the heat up to the operator.

We had a non-quick-tach loader on our Ollie 1755 which was our big tractor at the time before the engine blew. To take the loader arms off, I would pull the top pins for the arms, then extend the cylinders out enough to brace the arms on top. Then all that you have to do is pull the pins for the cylinders and disconnect the hoses. After you do it a few times, you can do it as fast as a quick-tach style loader. Only problem w/ having a loader on the big tractor, is that it's tied down loading the manure spreader instead of being on the plow turning it under right away. The loader never caused problems otherwise.

Our 285 pulled 3-16's in heavy clay, could probably do 4-18's in lighter sandy soil. We also ran a 1-row fox chopper on it for years until about 5-7 years ago, until we got the 1755 and now the 1855. Got a 2-row Fox shortly after (1000 rpm pto) We use it on the 4-row planter also. Could definatley pull a 6-row, probably an 8-row. The gearing might be a little high for a snowblower on the rear, but should be fine in most conditions. We've never used a snowblower, just the loader and/or a blade.

I've noticed most Massey's still bring a strong price. Our 285 w/ a slobbering but still strong running 318 perkins and rougher paint could probably fetch $6-8,000 at the right auction. Lots of them do have loaders around here. Lots of makes will fit.
Donovan from Wisconsin

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TWM

09-30-2005 06:20:30




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 Re: MF Tractor for a Loader (70's Vintage Series) in reply to Don-Wi, 09-29-2005 20:04:50  
Thanks!

We'll have to see what we find around here locally.



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TWM

09-27-2005 21:34:16




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 Re: MF Tractor for a Loader (70's Vintage Series) in reply to TWM, 09-26-2005 12:41:41  
Anyone with any input?



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