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Well it will lift a Big Bale. Picture

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Willy-N

08-28-2005 10:46:13

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I went out and tried out the forks this morning. I lifted a big bale weighing around 1,200 lbs with out any problems. I drove it around in the feild about a foot off the ground. I ran it all the way up so it looks like I will be able to at least take one off the 2 high stack and lower it to the ground to move it. Used to have to pull them over with a rope then use the rear forks to lift one up. It travels a lot better on the loader then on the rear forks. The front tires were light the other way. Nice having the Rack on the forks to keep the bale from rolling back on me when tilted. I did not have the Tilt cylinders on yet so I set it up for level when down. Now at least I can finish working on it knowing it will work when I am done. mark H.

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Lou

08-29-2005 06:33:25

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Re: Well it will lift a Big Bale. Picture in reply to Willy-N, 08-28-2005 10:46:13

The 135 certainly is a good little tractor. Read a story a while back, medical doctor was lifting round bales with his loader. One rolled back over him, he was able to tell the rescue squad where his spine was broken when they got there, guess you can never have too much information. Id be a lot more concerned with my own rear end than the tractors front end. good luck, Lou

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msb

08-29-2005 19:05:29

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Re: Well it will lift a Big Bale. Picture in reply to Lou, 08-29-2005 06:33:25

And I got the job of repairing a John Deere 2030 that was damaged when the operator raised a round bale too high and it rolled down the loader arms.Sorry to say the operator was killed.BE CAREFUL OUT THERE!

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Willy-N

08-29-2005 19:37:37

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Re: Well it will lift a Big Bale. Picture in reply to msb, 08-29-2005 19:05:29

I have saw a lot of fork set ups with out role back protection and it makes me wonder why for a few bucks more you could add a back for the bale to rest against? Looking at mine you would have to be going up a real steep hill or backwards and slaming on the brakes to get one to role up the arms and have no back to the forks. Course some with those bigger tractors might try to carry 2 of them but they sure would be a fool to try it!! Out in the world there are lots of people who do not figure or look at what can happen and get into trouble. Mark H.

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Willy-N

08-29-2005 08:04:38

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Re: Well it will lift a Big Bale. Picture in reply to Lou, 08-29-2005 06:33:25

I have a Expanded steel cage reinforsed with 2" X 1/4" angle iron 3 1/2 ft tall on the back of my forks. Plus the fork support made out of 2X4 3/8" box steel goes up around 16+ inches that this frame is welded to. A bale can't role or come back except off the side of the tractor. I also don't buy round bales. When I transport one it is below the level of the tractor front end for saftey reasons. Mark H.

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shoe

08-28-2005 19:33:09

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Re: Well it will lift a Big Bale. Picture in reply to Willy-N, 08-28-2005 10:46:13

Your little tractor may lift that bale from
time to time but the front end is built too
light for every day use that way. wouldn't
be long and the front end would be shot.

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Willy-N

08-28-2005 20:50:17

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Re: Well it will lift a Big Bale. Picture in reply to shoe, 08-28-2005 19:33:09

Being the MF 135 Orchard it has the heavier solid front axle with the larger hubs. I only have to move one bale a week to feed during the winter. I also have a spare front axle and support housing to replace it with if nessasary. A lot cheaper then buying a new tractor just to move a little hay to feed. I pay to have the 60-70 tons put in the barn, I only remove it to feed. If I come accross a good deal on a bigger one that will change. But this small tractor sure does a lot of work on the place over the years. Hauling them from the rear was real hard on the Hydraulic pump and 3 point system! Doing it off the Loader the pump does not work near as hard to lift them since the controls cut out at around 1,800 PSI and lifting them with the rear 3-point over the last few years it would knock some at maxium pressure to get them up and a light front end. Mark H.

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txgrn

08-28-2005 17:45:08

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Re: Well it will lift a Big Bale. Picture in reply to Willy-N, 08-28-2005 10:46:13

Looks like you got her going. I was unloading a trailer just yesterday myself; 5x6 rounds stacked two high.

You said two things that are good for your health. One was the comment about the bale not falling back on you because of the rack on the forks, and the second is lowering it to just off the ground as soon as possible for transport. Glad you know how to be a safe loader operator.

Mark

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Willy-N

08-28-2005 18:01:05

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Re: Well it will lift a Big Bale. Picture in reply to txgrn, 08-28-2005 17:45:08

I was using a Narrow Crawler Tractor with a Loader Bucket on it about 20 years ago. I lifted the bucket up with some dirt in the bucket and got on a small side hill! I allmost tipped it over and it scared the crap out of me!! I had the rental yard pick it up and bring me a dozer instead. I will never forget that day and no way will I move very far with it up or use it on side hills other than allmost level ground. You only get a second when it starts to go over and life is to short to go sooner!! Mark H.

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txgrn

08-29-2005 05:40:21

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10-4 in reply to Willy-N, 08-28-2005 18:01:05

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old

08-28-2005 16:24:18

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Re: Well it will lift a Big Bale. Picture in reply to Willy-N, 08-28-2005 10:46:13

Thats a nice little bale, you should come over to may place and try it on one of my big bales. Its all I can do to move them with my tractor and thats with fluid in the tires and a back blade with 6 suit case weights on the blade. Even with all that if I hit a bump one of the rear tires will jump off the ground.

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Willy-N

08-28-2005 16:49:11

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Re: Well it will lift a Big Bale. Picture in reply to old, 08-28-2005 16:24:18

What size are yours? My big ones I am used to are 4X4X8 and there Big enought for me!! Mark H.

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old

08-28-2005 17:40:24

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Re: Well it will lift a Big Bale. Picture in reply to Willy-N, 08-28-2005 16:49:11

I do mine with an old NH 850 round baler and it really packs them tight. I'd guees they are around 2000-2500lbs. But this year I have managed to get them a little lighter.

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T.J.-A.C.

08-28-2005 13:14:17

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Re: Well it will lift a Big Bale. Picture in reply to Willy-N, 08-28-2005 10:46:13

That is one impressive picture, I have been following your progress, I am working on a 135 to put it back to work after it sat for about 5 years, I have an older Belarus AS 250 that we use around the place it has a KMW loader on it they later became ALO Quicke loaders, It is a quick attach loader I am going to make up some brackets next winter so I can switch it back and forth between the Massey and the Belarus. It will probably spend most of its time on the 135 because the Belarus doesnt have power steering. I see your loader uses a piece of channel under the tractor for the rear mount Does this mount where the 4 bolts are in the bell housing holding the plate on it? I am really getting attached to this 135 and can't wait to finally cut hay with a live pto. Thanks T.J.

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Willy-N

08-28-2005 16:55:36

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Re: Well it will lift a Big Bale. Picture in reply to T.J.-A.C., 08-28-2005 13:14:17

Yes I used the 4 bolt holes under the belly to mount it. Hate having those arms going back to the axles to climb over! It pulls up on this mount when lifting stuff, that must be why the front mount bolts are larger on the front axle housing. I had to space the channel down with a plate to allow me to use the 4 bolts in the flat part of the heavy channel and out of the curve on the edge of it. Did not want to grind any off to weaken it and the Transmission/Bell Housing has a raised section near these bolts. You only need to space it 1/4 inch down to clear it and use the channel. I used 2 covers off the hole under the bolts to space and use for a templet. Mark H.

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T.J.-A.C.

08-29-2005 18:10:27

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Re: Well it will lift a Big Bale. Picture in reply to Willy-N, 08-28-2005 16:55:36

Thanks for the reply Mark, I was looking at the 2 tractors yesterday I am probably going to tie mine into the axle housing and the drawbar mount. I am going to borrow my uncles drawbar mount to copy it, mine was removed by the previous owner and lost over the years although I do have the drawbar. I do a lot of fabricating at work and have access to a lot of tools so it should be a snap to fab up, The reason I need to make the rear of mine more rigid is due to the loader frame being quick detachable, I won"t really get any structural help from the frame, I pretty much have it all figured out in my head, I am probably going to mount another pump on the front of the tractor just like the Fords did. I just have to get the time when I can live with the other tractor being down for a little while and I will get it done. Thanks for your great pictures. T.J.

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Willy-N

08-29-2005 18:37:38

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Re: Well it will lift a Big Bale. Picture in reply to T.J.-A.C., 08-29-2005 18:10:27

My problem was the Rear Orchard tires are wide and were only about a inch from the frame and I could not use my chains on them. I need chains during the winter big time! So I had to cut them off or get new rims and tires. Mark H.

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Willy-N

08-28-2005 11:02:12

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Re: Different Veiw in reply to Willy-N, 08-28-2005 10:46:13

Here is a different view of it. Mark H.

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