TRACTOR PARTS Allis Chalmers Case & David Brown Farmall & International Ferguson Ford & New Holland John Deere Massey Ferguson Massey Harris Minneapolis Moline Oliver & Cockshutt Kubota / Yanmar

TRACTOR MANUALS

Allis Chalmers	Case	Farmall IH	Ford 8N,9N,2N	Ford
Ferguson	John Deere	Massey Ferguson	Minn. Moline	Oliver

Attention Forum Users: On the 28th of December 2023 at 9:00am Central Time, we will be taking the forums down for maintenance while we prepare the new forums for your use. Please click here for more information.

Massey Harris & Massey Ferguson Tractors Discussion Forum

135 Diesel Fuel Transfer Pump Change

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register

Author

MarkNOhio

07-12-2005 18:13:20

Report to Moderator

First a comment then a question. After several months of having a very rough idle, sometimes stalling at idle, and generally poor performance until I got above 1200-1300 RPM I decided to investigate. What I found was that at any RPM the glass sediment bowl on the low pressure fuel transfer pump was full of air bubbles. I hadn't remembered seeing this before so ordered a new fuel pump. Long story short, after changing it this afternoon that little Perkins diesel runs MUCH smoother. Now my question, it must be a British thing but the fuel lines aren't really flared like I'm used to. Instead, the male fittings have a very slight flare on the end with sort of a thick rubber washer between the flare and the nut that screws into the pump. They look almost like an old fashioned cone shaped water faucet washer, only smaller. Of course after some 35 years they were very hard and brittle. I managed to get all but one to seal, but the pressure side of the pump is very slightly leaking, maybe one drop every minute or so. I can live with that for now but do want to get them sealed up. Are the little washers something that I could get at NAPA or another real auto parts store or am I going to have to make the 50 mile round trip to the Massey Ferguson dealer? Thanks in advance for your help.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

MarkNOhio

07-19-2005 07:21:51

Report to Moderator

Re: 135 Diesel Fuel Transfer Pump Change in reply to MarkNOhio, 07-12-2005 18:13:20

Thanks to all that replied. I ended up making my own and all lines are now leak free.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

Jack in NB

07-15-2005 05:38:30

Report to Moderator

Re: 135 Diesel Fuel Transfer Pump Change in reply to MarkNOhio, 07-12-2005 18:13:20

I make them up from 3/16 and 1/4 black fuel line.

The stocks we see here have a bit larger Outside Diameter than the original MF washers, so I gring them down to size.

I cut off an inch or so and put it onto a 3/16 or 1/4" bolt (3" or so long, as a handle to hold while grinding) and grind the OD down so it fits snugly into the female sockets. Then slide it off the bolt an eighth of an inch or so (to match the ones removed - just don't cut them too short) and cut the protruding section off with a sharp knife. I get 4 to 6 out of a 1" piece.

The bolt supports the hose from collapsing during the slicing, giving a more uniform cut.

Some of the hoses have a reinforcing braid that appears during the grinding - I trim off any "fuzz" with scissors.

Minor irregularities cause no problem because the washer is squeezed when the fuel line nuts are tightened.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

sibby{AUS]

07-12-2005 22:49:07

Report to Moderator

Re: 135 Diesel Fuel Transfer Pump Change in reply to MarkNOhio, 07-12-2005 18:13:20

Mark,we used to call them olives, be they 1/4, 5/16". they just look like a small piece of fuel hose cut off. i have cut my own in the past to get out of trouble. fuel pump repairers should stock them also, it doesnt have to be a genuine massey part. hope this helps. cheers from down under.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

DavidP, South Wales

07-13-2005 14:21:05

Report to Moderator

Re: 135 Diesel Fuel Transfer Pump Change in reply to sibby{AUS] , 07-12-2005 22:49:07

Hi Mark and Sibby,
They can be a pain in the proverbial. I have never seen them used on anything other than MF.
Two things to try first;
1/ A tiny copper washer between the flaring and the rubber olive has worked in the past.
2/ The old favourite PTFE tape also works.

If you do need them, the numbers are;
Main pipes 1/4 OD 376 525 X1
Drain pipes 3/16 OD 376 524 X1
Cheers
DavidP

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

wombat

07-17-2005 05:16:46

Report to Moderator

Re: 135 Diesel Fuel Transfer Pump Change in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 07-13-2005 14:21:05

do not use teflon tape on any outlet pipe from the fuel filter. ie the main one that goes to the fuel pump. I am going through this process at the moment. A small piece of teflon will destroy a fuel pump costing alot of money to fix and is a common problem so my diesel repairers tell me.

[Log in to Reply] [No Email]

[Options] [Printer Friendly] [Posting Help] [Return to Forum] [Log in to Reply]

TRACTOR PARTS	TRACTOR MANUALS

We sell tractor parts! We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home | Forums

Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.
All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy