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msmigelski

06-12-2005 10:25:25

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Back for more great help, last fall I asked about getting a 65 running after sitting for almost 10 years. Yesterday I pulled out after fixing the fuel leak. I put a bush hog on the back and started cutting. The problem I am having is the PTO switch has three positions. up is on, middle is neutral, down on but slow. When I put in the up position and start cutting it pops out of gear every couple of minutes. How do I keep the PTO engaged.

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Marcel Gosselin

06-14-2005 11:19:33

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Re: mf65 pto in reply to msmigelski, 06-12-2005 10:25:25

My 165 pto popped out of gear, especially going down hill. My problem was that I could move the tractor pto shaft in and out with my hand. When going down hill the weight of the implement pto would push the pto assemble ahead thus popping the pto off.
If yours moves forward and backward let us know and I can give you my fix.

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Jerry Castleberry

06-13-2005 10:49:10

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Re: mf65 pto in reply to msmigelski, 06-12-2005 10:25:25

As in the other post, UP!! is for engine PTO that you brush hog with. Otherwise you won't have enough RPM's to operate. Love my MF65 LP Jerry C Okla

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Rednight (IL)

06-13-2005 05:08:47

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Re: mf65 pto in reply to msmigelski, 06-12-2005 10:25:25

I have the same problem on my MF65. The lever pulls BACK or UP to engage the engine PTO. I tried adjusting the forks but it would still pop out. For years now I have used a bungee cord looped around the lift arm and pto lever, keeps it in gear just fine.

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hdlong

06-13-2005 04:09:07

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Re: mf65 pto in reply to msmigelski, 06-12-2005 10:25:25

the PTO lever goes up for engine driven PTO and may need ajustment to fork that engages pto the only thing for ground driven pto is like a hay rake or a potatoe digger

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MHF

06-12-2005 13:28:46

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Re: mf65 pto in reply to msmigelski, 06-12-2005 10:25:25

I think up is ground speed and all the way foward is engine I would run the pto in engine speed that way you have pto control with clutch if you are going to use ground buy a overiding clutch for the pto you can get them at any farm store. Your shredder is causing it to pop out of gear when it works. With that overiding clutch you wont run into any building when you push the clutch down seen it done a few time when people use ground.

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msmigelski

06-12-2005 16:05:09

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Re: mf65 pto in reply to MHF , 06-12-2005 13:28:46

so down is the way I want to go, never seen 1 like this before. this is my 1st MF. If I put it in the down position will it still pop out?

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Jeff-oh

06-14-2005 05:47:43

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No. PTO lever needs to be pulled up. in reply to msmigelski, 06-12-2005 16:05:09

See the visual posted above.

Up is engine driven PTO. i.e. the PTO turns at a fixed RPM. (540 RPM when the engine is at 1700 RPM)

Down turns the PTO at 1 rotation for every 20 inches of travel. Yes it will reverse the PTO direction when you back up.

Pull your left hand inspection plate (the one with the shifter. Then move the PTO gear by hand and see how it engages, inspect for worn teeth etc. (engine off of course) then look at the gear fork (this is the little arm on the inside of the inspection plate that engages the gear) The angle may need to be adjusted to make full engagement.

I would be a little concerned about holding the lever in place to maintain PTO engagement as this will lead to wear on the fork and the gear race.

Jeff

(thats interesting the service manual clames 540 RPM at 1500 engine RPM and 1 rev per 19 inches of ground speed... guess they even had conflicting info)

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Bob N.Y.

06-14-2005 16:35:50

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Re: No. PTO lever needs to be pulled up. in reply to Jeff-oh, 06-14-2005 05:47:43

540 rpm pto on my 1960 65 gas was 1480 engine rpm. My 1964 65 diesel runs at 1700 engine speed for 540 pto.

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