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Pony: How practical in my situation?

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pgmrdan

06-11-2005 11:32:07

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I want to buy my first tractor. I saw a Pony for sale. It drives nice and looks like it is in good shape.

How good a choice would a Pony be for pushing snow (in south central Iowa) and mowing?

What's a fair price for a Pony in good shape?

Will one pull a trailer with a thousand pounds of landscaping materials?

Are replacement parts plentiful?

Are implements plentiful?

Today is the first time I've ever seen a Pony. I know almost nothing about them. Fill me in on anything else I need to know.

Thanks,
Dan

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51Pony

06-12-2005 17:29:56

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Re: Pony: How practical in my situation? in reply to pgmrdan, 06-11-2005 11:32:07

Dan,
Been pushing snow in Central NY for 30+ years with the Pony. 180" of snow is average around here. Pushes good on a gravel drive, cause the chains bite good. Blacktop they slip a little. No grabbers on my crosslinks, just plain.
Mow lawn with a finish mower all summer too. I haven't put the dirt plow in the ground myself, but Dad used to every year for the garden. When Dad re-built the engine, all the parts were available at NAPA. He had to weasel more $$ out of Mom for new brakes after the re-build. Hehe! Pony's good, but I guess I'm biased! I'll send ya pictures if you want.

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new 51 pony owner

06-14-2005 22:33:02

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Re: Pony: How practical in my situation? in reply to 51Pony, 06-12-2005 17:29:56

hey all. I recently inherated a 51 MH pony from my grandfather, well i got rooing aroung in his barn and found a 5ft sicklebar mower for the tractor, Knowing grampa all the parts are there including all the nuts, bolts, belt and 3 different "blades". i can figure out how to attach it to the frame of the tractor but not a clue how to attach it to the hydralic lifts, parts and levers everywhere. Any picts or ideas on where to get the attachment plans would be very much appreciated. The tractor itself runs mint and will someday make a great restoration project but unill then i would like to mow some fields and work the ol' girl. thanks ben

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Texas Denny

06-12-2005 07:27:31

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Re: Pony: How practical in my situation? in reply to pgmrdan, 06-11-2005 11:32:07

Some points have been made about parts. I have a Massey 44 Special. I have only needed one part for it since I got it. That item was the rear main seal. I could not find one anywhere. I found a 1500 rpm seal in Garlock that looked like it would work but I had to make my own adaptor plate to put it in the engine. This required a laythe and a mill - something few people have.

Massey Ferguson hasn't been as good at maintaining parts as some other manufacturers like John Deere, Allis and Farmall. They won't have everything. However, where there is a will, there is a way! I really like my Massey and won't sell it for anything.

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Massey Harris Guy

06-11-2005 19:31:23

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Re: Pony: How practical in my situation? in reply to pgmrdan, 06-11-2005 11:32:07

I push snow here in PA. Not too bad. I built a plow that when it pushes it puts weight on the drawbar for traction. I can push till it stalls with no chains and with fluid. Implements can be hard to find and pricey. Brush hogs wont work as the PTO runs COUNTERCLOCKWISE, opposit from the normal. I can pull a cube yard of gravel with mine with no problems. If its in nice shape id say go for it. The Pony was my first tractor. She"s served me well and she gets the same.

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Jason(PA)

06-11-2005 18:41:03

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Re: Pony: How practical in my situation? in reply to pgmrdan, 06-11-2005 11:32:07

As far as mowing go's as long as you don't let the grass get too high you would be ok,but as far as snow goes Im not sure a Pony would be the best choice. If you were on black top and had ALOT of weight on it and you could go out every now and then to keep up with the snow It might be ok. I have found out that Pony impliments are hard to find. As far as parts for the motor you would be ok. Parts for the rest of the tractor would have to be tracked down threw people parting them out. No Massy Ferguson dealers around that I know of carry any Massy Harris parts. If you like the Pony and think its a fair price go ahead and get it. They are cute little things to have around.

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Texas Denny

06-11-2005 14:15:16

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Re: Pony: How practical in my situation? in reply to pgmrdan, 06-11-2005 11:32:07

I used to live in Minnesota. I've seen people pushing snow with a G Allis that weighs 1500#. And I guess everything else has been tried - probably a Pony as well. When it comes to snow, there is no substitute for weight - not much weight in a Pony. I have a friend who reasoned that his Allis WD-45 was no good for snow because it was two wheel drive. So He bought a newer New Holland with 4 wheel drive. He discovered it didn't work any better than the WD-45. It was a little lighter. The 4 wheel drive helped but not enough to make up for the weight reduction.

So to answer your question, you can push snow with a broom. You can push snow with a Pony. It all depends on how much snow you are expecting to push, will there be hard pack snow under it, will you have field chains and it goes on. If the snow is heavy and wet, you won't push much unless you have field chains. There is no easy answer except: yes and no! I'm a believer in field chains no matter what the tractor is.

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roper6365

06-11-2005 14:07:24

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Re: Pony: How practical in my situation? in reply to pgmrdan, 06-11-2005 11:32:07

Hey Dan, I don't know the pony very well but stick to rule #1, buy more horse power than you think you need and check the fluids for water and air in-leakage. As far as your mower goes, what kind is it? Discine,bellymower,bushhog? You will need to make sure that the PTO's are rated the same for exsample, A 540 rpm tractor pto with a 540 implement which is pretty standard, the others are 1000 rpm.

hope it helps some, Roper

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