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massy ferguson 135 live hydrolics/PTO add on

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05-18-2005 11:50:20




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I have found a good buy on a gas powered 135 massey ferguson that is in good shape, but it does not have a two stage clutch or what I think is called live power (the hydrolics don"t work unless the clutch is let out). The only way to get the hydrolics to raise when sitting still, is to put it in netrual firstm then let out on the clutch.

Is there an add on kit that is not too expensive to fix either situation?

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Gerald J.

05-18-2005 18:15:30




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 Re: massy ferguson 135 live hydrolics/PTO add on in reply to massey 135, 05-18-2005 11:50:20  
Sounds like it may be a standard and should have just the minimum of gauges and a steel seat. No cushioning for the seat other than the flat spring.

I suppose the bell housing might be the same, but I don't know for sure, I'd have to browse the parts book a while to know that. For sure the flywheel assembly would have to be changed as well as the tranmission input shaft. There are two clutches in the flywheel assembly and a coaxial transmission nose shaft, the inner for the drive and the outter for the PTO. Then surely there are differences inside the transmission.

Its sure easier to find a MF-135 with live PTO than to change this one unless this one is nearly free. Its probably a bargain because it doesn't have the live PTO.

Gerald J.

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Gerald J.

05-19-2005 00:20:49




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 From the parts book in reply to Gerald J., 05-18-2005 18:15:30  
You are looking at a "special." Z134 engine. Single clutch, PTO and hydraulic pump driving by the transmission intermediate shaft.

Digging through the parts book, I find the transmission cases are the same (only one listed). You need a gaggle of parts:
A hollow intermediate shaft (the gears can move from your solid shaft. A PTO intermediate shaft, driven gear, and bearings to go through that hollow intermediate shaft. A hollow PTO input shaft and housing to fit the front of the transmission. The original transmission input shaft stays, just need new bearings and seals and room for the PTO input shaft. The double clutch flywheel, the double clutch plates and pressure plate assemblies, and maybe a different throw out bearing and detail bits around there.

To make the changes you need to split the tractor at the bell housing which requires removing the dash and the steering gear. Then you probably need to separate the transmission from the final drive and to change that intermediate shaft you may have to take out the top shaft in the transmission since that intermediate shaft is on the bottom.

A few good salvage yards probably have the parts. You need a parts book to identify them, then a shop manual (better than the I&T) to take the transmission apart and put it back together and to adjust the double clutch assembly. You can't have mine.

It cost the previous owner of my MF-135 about $1500 to have the seals repaired on the PTO input shaft assembly (that included a used hydraulic pump and new clutch plates) in the 1980s. That splitting and separation gets expensive or a lot of heavy work that needs special tools.

Gerald J.

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