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DAVID BROAD

05-09-2005 10:44:28




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Have a question as regaurds to the original type pickup hitch . That of caures being the type whitch has the T section retaining bar . First is does anybody know when it actually came out onto the market and how many years it was made for ? Also I have noticed over the years that there apear to be two different types of T bar . First the was the type which the center bar was of a tubular [round] form with a handel as its reliese . Then there was a type that had a suare centre bar with what apears to be a butto as the reliese . Was the later a later version ? If so when did they change over ? Reading something in Classic Tractor which I found surprising . They were in fact made by GKN . Weren't they something to do with Sanky ? David

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DavidP, South Wales

05-09-2005 14:24:43




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 Re: Pickup Hitch in reply to DAVID BROAD , 05-09-2005 10:44:28  
Hi David,
Some very interesting questions. To the best of my knowledge the 'Ferguson' pick-up hitch was introduced around 1947 with the TEA 20. I have heard stories that a TEA 20 with a pick-up hitch would outpull a Fordson Major. The original square section T bar with the spring loaded button was made for the TEA. Presumably as trailer weights and tractor sizes grew it was not strong enough. The round tube T bar was introduced around the time of the FE 35 and later MF 35 and MF 65 1957 with longer arms etc as was the uprated hook. They rarely gave any trouble unlike the later 'autohitches' which needed adjustment when the chains, rods or linkages began to wear. I was not aware that they were made by GKN but not surprised as at the time GKN was a major manufacturer. Not sure about the hitches but I believe that GKN and Sankey collaborated to make cabs for MF and possibly more.
Cheers
DavidP

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Roy in UK

05-10-2005 03:40:48




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 Re: Pickup Hitch in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 05-09-2005 14:24:43  
Yeah that T bar pick up hitch was very good, Ok it was a bit of a pain at times having to rig it up when you wanted to do a bit of trailer work ( especially if you had forgot where you left it LOL ) but that horrible thing with the chains that replaced it was a nightmare. you were forever adjusting the things. When you say Fordson Major do you mean the "Sit up and beg" E27N? Anything could outpull that piece of junk. All the weight was on the front end of the thing. I chap I know said he was using standard Fordsons, he then went on to the E27N. The Ferguson rep persuaded him to let him demo a TE20 and it was bye bye Fordson!

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DavidP, South Wales

05-12-2005 14:09:00




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 Re: Pickup Hitch in reply to Roy in UK, 05-10-2005 03:40:48  
Hi,
No, not the E27N. The Major produced from 1955ish to 1964 or so.

DavidP



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Roy in UK

05-14-2005 05:37:27




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 Re: Pickup Hitch in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 05-12-2005 14:09:00  
Oh the so called "New Major" wow! Actually my neighbour used to run 2 of those and he thought they were an A.O.K. 50ish hp tractor. That was until he saw my uncle discing with our newly aquired 55 h.p. International B450.... Now that thing would pull the arse of a MF175 on the pick up hitch!



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lonestarjeff

05-12-2005 08:56:12




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 Re: Pickup Hitch in reply to Roy in UK, 05-10-2005 03:40:48  
Can"t find a pickup hitch anywhere over here! I found somebody over there that still makes"em(pricey), but they"re not wanting to export.

So I decided to fabricate one, crudely of course. I"ve used square tubing for the T-bar & slide. Still working out problems w/ the thing binding when I lower the linkage.

Can"t imagine why they weren"t more popular over here.

Jeff



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DavidP, South Wales

05-12-2005 14:06:54




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 Re: Pickup Hitch in reply to lonestarjeff, 05-12-2005 08:56:12  
Hi Jeff,
Could your problem be slight misalignment of the square tubes as the linkage falls or maybe just too good a fit?

David P



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lonestarjeff

05-12-2005 14:57:05




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 Re: Pickup Hitch in reply to DavidP, South Wales, 05-12-2005 14:06:54  
Hey David:

I"m afraid it"s a little of both.

The outer tube has a slight swell along the weld line, so I had to grind a trough along the inner tube to loosen the fit.

Now the problem seems to be the "T" is slightly off of perpendicular, just enough to cause a problem(combined w/ the close tolerence mentioned above). The "T" is made from 2" square tubing, may be difficult to adjust the angle. The slider moves in & out quite easily by hand, but I guess the inherent eccentric loads caused by the assembly geometry makes it "sticky". I may try to take a little more off the inner tube all around, see if I make any headway.

I need to work a little more on the hook, too. I could find nothing even close to the original 1-piece casting. I used a piece of 1 1/2" square tubing w/ a 5-ton tow hook bolted inside. The tube is drilled for a clevis pin pivot & beveled @ the pivot end. Angle iron pieces, bolted up under the diffy, create the pivot bracket. The "hook" assembly fits right up between the brackets.

It was a perfect fit on paper when I did my calculations, but very tight when I bolted it all up. Had to grind on the tube quite a bit to make it drop at all, but still needs more work.

Jeff

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