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sloppy front end on 135

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Revredneck

04-25-2005 06:27:32

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Hey guys, I took my Dad"s 135 diesel to the barn down the road last week and it scared me to death. The front end has a wicked shimmy. I watched for loose parts and saw that the socket ends on the strut rods that run from the pedal bases to the front axle were very loose. Is there a fix for that without having to but all new parts? I think the tie rods ends are okay. Thanks in advance for your advice. Good luck and God bless.
Tommy

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DavidP,South Wales

04-26-2005 14:35:10

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Re: sloppy front end on 135 in reply to Revredneck, 04-25-2005 06:27:32

Hi,
Loosesness in the rear of the radius rods does not normally cause shimmy. Your problem is likely to be somewhere in the steering rod ball joints but mainly wear in the rocker shafts and column adjustments in the steering box.
If there is any play in the steering wheel and a noticable up and down movement of it as you turn it in the play then you have significant wear in the steering box.
The rocker shafts are quite expensive but are available from no genuine sources. A short trm measure might be to lower the front tyre pressures.
Cheers
David P

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Gerald J.

04-26-2005 17:18:06

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Re: sloppy front end on 135 in reply to DavidP,South Wales, 04-26-2005 14:35:10

Some up and down motion of the steering wheel shaft is required to operate the power steering valve.

The mesh of the steering gears is adjustable. You start by loosening the top cross shaft and adjust the lower shaft to the rack on the ball worm until its free enough of lash, then you adjust the top cross shaft. The cross shaft gears are tapered so moving them back and forth adjusts the lash.

Looseness happens in all these places:
Wheel bearings.
Spindle bearings, both radial and thrust.
Drag links, both ends.
Radius rods, both ends.
Steering arm spline fit to spindles.
Rear steering arm spline fits to gear box shafts.
Steering gears.
Ball worm.
Steering wheel shaft.

I calm my MF-135 by putting my feet on the back ends of the drag links when it sets up a shimmy.

Gerald J.

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txgrn

04-25-2005 17:27:25

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Re: sloppy front end on 135 in reply to Revredneck, 04-25-2005 06:27:32

I had a Ford with very large tires on the front and the spindles were worn somewhat; enough to see them move.

Going down the road it was all over the place; not shimmy, just couldn't find it'self.

I put about 200# on the front it to counterbalance some heavy round bales I would carry and the wandering stopped. Maybe will work on the shimmy and a whole lot less trouble than trying to change out spindle bushings.

Mark

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Machine works

04-25-2005 07:18:56

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Re: sloppy front end on 135 in reply to Revredneck, 04-25-2005 06:27:32

You can remove shims (if any are present) at the pivot sockets to tighten them up. If no shims are installed and they are still loose you can mill down the mating surfaces and reshim.Warning: the socket bases are very hard metal, I don"t think a file will cut them down. I surface ground mine. good luck

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