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Spindle right? any suggestions in fixing?

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mtnbikerman

04-18-2005 06:01:12




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Davis tractor has good price on spindles. What will I need to do the repair?




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txgrn

04-18-2005 07:05:21




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 Re: Spindle right? any suggestions in fixing? in reply to mtnbikerman, 04-18-2005 06:01:12  
If you bent the spindle and not broke a gear in the box great.

Jack it up
Remove the wheel
Remove the steering arm at the top of the spindle (remove bolt, install a puller, and may need heat)
Take the spindle out from the bottom with the axle and all. Bearings come off just like a car.

If you want to replace the bushings too, unbolt that side of the front end and take it all to a machine shop. They can press out the old bushings, press in the new, and fit the spindle. As I recall a little machining is required to get a tight fit.

Mark

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mtnbikerman

04-18-2005 07:23:07




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 Won't a broken gear make a noise in reply to txgrn, 04-18-2005 07:05:21  
I"m not getting any kinda noise Just darn near impossible to turn. Would a broken steering gear make a noise?



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Gerald J.

04-18-2005 09:45:25




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 Re: Won't a broken gear make a noise in reply to mtnbikerman, 04-18-2005 07:23:07  
Unhook one end of the drag link. Doesn't matter which. Then jack up the right end of the front axle and see which is still stiff. If its the spindle it will be very stiff. Its in the gear box the steering wheel will still be stiff in one direction.

Drag links ends come loose best by striking the sides of the steering arm with two hammer simultaneously. They have a tapered shank into a tapered hole, and banging on the threaded end can make them tighter by swelling up the shank.

Gerald J.

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mtnbikerman

04-18-2005 17:55:18




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 Still hard to steer with either link removed Now W in reply to Gerald J., 04-18-2005 09:45:25  
and the end removed jacked up. Now how hard is it going to be to fix? Special Tools? And are all parts available?



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Gerald J.

04-18-2005 20:56:09




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 Re: Still hard to steer with either link removed N in reply to mtnbikerman, 04-18-2005 17:55:18  
Spindle moves freely? steering wheel stiff? Then you have to attack the steering box. There is an adjustment for gear mesh on the opposite end of each shaft from the steering arm. You need at least the I&T shop manual to guide you into the gear box. There should be a removable cover under the battery box so you can get a look in to look for broken pieces.

Gerald J.



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mtnbikerman

04-19-2005 04:48:15




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 What does the steering box cost to fix parts wise? in reply to Gerald J., 04-18-2005 20:56:09  
From what little I've read some far there are 3 gears a steering wheel gear and a left and right gear. My money is on the right gear being shot. Sound right? to get to the inspection plate will I have to remove the dash? Will I have to remove the dash to make the repairs?



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Gerald J.

04-19-2005 08:06:58




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 Re: What does the steering box cost to fix parts w in reply to mtnbikerman, 04-19-2005 04:48:15  
Best I recall, I was able to get to the top cover without removing dash or gas tank. Take out the battery, any wood that's under it and look down. I had a power steering leak on my MF-135 at the same time I had no functioning power steering so I pulled the dash to get the top steering shaft cover off to replace its seal, and then I had the gas tank out so I could get the power steering cylinder out because the piston rod had broken and jammed the piston in the cylinder at an angle. I also replaced bearings in the steering box after a local machine shop made new parts for the cylinder at 1/4 the MF price. MF didn't think those bearings were replaceable, but I was successful. Having a small metal lathe whas handy in making the right bushings and getting the old ones out of the caps where they are in blind holes. I went to oilite because the original steel backed Garlock are no longer made. I had to ream them in place because they were a tight fit.

Gerald J.

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mtnbikerman

04-19-2005 04:51:53




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 Forgot Should I be looking for 8 tooth or 10 too in reply to mtnbikerman, 04-19-2005 04:48:15  
Thanks



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mtnbikerman

04-19-2005 06:27:55




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 Does it matter if there are a different number of in reply to mtnbikerman, 04-19-2005 04:51:53  
I found a website that has Left hand 9 teeth for $98 and right hand 7 tooth for $98



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Gerald J

04-19-2005 10:24:35




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 Re: Does it matter if there are a different number in reply to mtnbikerman, 04-19-2005 06:27:55  
In my MF-135 gearbox, there is a ball worm on the steering shaft that has a rack that runs the lower cross shaft. The upper cross shaft runs the other drag link. All are tapered with an end positioning bolt to set the mesh and to minimize the backlash. The power steering cylinder then runs a rack on top the upper cross shaft so it need more gear teeth for power steering than without power steering and the lower shaft needs teeth on the side and the top for all positions. I believe the gearbox on your MF-35 is very similar but I don't have parts information nor specific adjustment instructions.

Gerald J.

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mtnbikerman

04-20-2005 04:51:32




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 Gears for left and right seem fine. But in reply to Gerald J, 04-19-2005 10:24:35  
I can"t seem to get the steering arm off the left side. I tried banging with 2 hammers. I guess I could pick up a puller. There was alot of water in the box when I opened the covers. Where should I look next. On my 35 you can get the right side off to check the gear but on the left side one bolt is blocked by the battery tray. So I took off the tank, tray and all the wires. No that hard figured I"ll learn something. Now I guess I need to pull the wheel

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mtnbikerman

04-25-2005 05:18:30




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 For anyone still following I only had one bearing in reply to mtnbikerman, 04-20-2005 04:51:32  
steering shaft and it was toasted and the bottom bearing at the bottom of the shaft was toast also. No grease left at all. Gears are good but it was a good thing I took it apart cause the gear box was nothing but water and a little bit of oil.



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