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MF 35 Remote Hydraulics

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Jason H.

04-12-2005 10:15:39




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I see in the archives where it is possible to install remote hydraulics for an MF35 using the existing 3point pump. I'm interested in installing a remote system this way. Mined doesn't have to be fast, I just need it to lift the arms on a hay rake into the transport position after the job is done. Will this setup do the job? If so, does anyone know of any articles on how to create this system, or perhaps someone that sells a 'ready-made' setup?
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Jason H.
Augusta, GA

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Gerald J.

04-13-2005 19:58:13




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 Re: MF 35 Remote Hydraulics in reply to Jason H., 04-12-2005 10:15:39  
I found a possible source for the valve at http://www.bare-co.com Doesn't look like they will sell direct, but there is a suitable part that might be bought through a dealer. Still do an internet search for Cross Hydraulics and for Prince Hydraulics to see if they still make similary accessories.

Gerald J.



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Jack in NB

04-13-2005 12:11:56




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 Re: MF 35 Remote Hydraulics in reply to Jason H., 04-12-2005 10:15:39  
Hello Jason -

I haven't seen complete kits for this setup. You - or the dealer (read - $$$$) - have to assemble it.

There are three options - a switch valve replacing the small cover under the seat (easiest to fit up for a 2-hose setup), a complete valve bank that fits on the same location, or for a one-hose setup, installing a hose on the pressure port on the left of the trans cover, locking the lift arms in the down position, and using the quadrant control to raise and lower the implement.

The switch valves (under $150) may or may not have a return port. That's not needed for a one-hose setup. This valve switches between internal (3-point lift arm operation) and remote - fluid goes to a remote control valve.

A weakness of the MF 35 system - you cannot have both 3-point system and remote operation - it's one or the other.

You need an additional control valve for this setup, and for the 2-hose cylinder a return line either into the switch valve, or plumbed directly into the transmission case. Some folks tap directly into the case (or the PTO lever cover, or the top of the trans filler plug) with a 3/8" or 1/2" pipe tap.

The valve bank that fits onto the cover is expensive, used ones may be 1 hose or two hose - or both - and I've found most of the used ones need service - because they leak, because detent springs are worn out, or the retainer clip is missing from the left control lever. This lever is the switch between internal operation and the remotes that are operated by the second and possibly third lever on the valve bank. It has to be locked back for remote operation.

Confused yet?

Add a note as to the type of system you prefer, and we can give you more specific information on the setup and what you need to get operational.

Jack Wetmore in NB Can. If you'd like to e-mail directly, [email protected]

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faiz rasool

04-13-2005 04:36:01




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 Re: MF 35 Remote Hydraulics in reply to Jason H., 04-12-2005 10:15:39  
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Allan/NCA

04-12-2005 18:50:50




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 Re: MF 35 Remote Hydraulics in reply to Jason H., 04-12-2005 10:15:39  

To mount the unit you take the small plate on the top of the lift cover and install the control unit. I had one 35 that had a loader on it and you had to wire the 3pt so it was always on and the unit had 3 valves with the 1st controling the 3pt. On my other 35 the control had a selector and 2 two way valves and the 3pt uses the normal control. I got the unit from the old central tractor no longer in business.

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ben uk

04-12-2005 14:19:39




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 Re: MF 35 Remote Hydraulics in reply to Jason H., 04-12-2005 10:15:39  
If were talking single way hydraulics its easy as pie.

Selector valve bolts on the plate in front of the seat to the right, provides remotes when selected on there, or three point when thats selected. If you need 2 way hydraulics then the easiest way is to still use the selector valve in front of the seat (Order online somewhere i expect), and send this to a spool valve. The spool valve can return to the sump via the return on the left side of the transmission, near the top, about in line with the middle of the seat. It will probably justbe a threaded hole with a bolt in it at the moment, get a connector for it.

Then u have 2 way remotes. As many as you want depending on the spool block you buy. They will be slow though.

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Jason H.

04-12-2005 18:11:24




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 Re: MF 35 Remote Hydraulics in reply to ben uk, 04-12-2005 14:19:39  
So whats the diff between one way and two way exactly?



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ben uk

04-12-2005 23:52:16




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 Re: MF 35 Remote Hydraulics in reply to Jason H., 04-12-2005 18:11:24  
1 way are like what you would have on a tipping trailer - the hydrauic fluid pumps into one side of the cylinder, and when you releive pressure the weight on the cylinder causes the fluid to flow back down the pipe and through the pump.

2 way have pressure both ways - so you will have 2 hoses going to 1 ram - used when there is no weight to push the ram back down, or when it is working both ways. Look at your implement. If it has 2 hyderaulic lines to the tractor then it probably needs 2 way hydraulics(follow the lines, do the ram(s) have a hydraulic line coming out of both ends?). If it has one then it needs one way.

Post back if thats confusing, was a bit rushed!

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Jason H.

04-13-2005 06:07:03




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 Re: MF 35 Remote Hydraulics in reply to ben uk, 04-12-2005 23:52:16  
No, that was a good explanation. I figured thats what it meant. Thanks for the info!



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Gerald J.

04-12-2005 10:44:02




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 Re: MF 35 Remote Hydraulics in reply to Jason H., 04-12-2005 10:15:39  
MF and Cross used to make the entire assembly. I don't know if they still do. Works well on my MF-135 giving two remotes.

Gerald J.



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Jason H.

04-12-2005 12:32:08




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 Re: MF 35 Remote Hydraulics in reply to Gerald J., 04-12-2005 10:44:02  
I'm guessing its a pretty straight forward setup. basically just a control valve, a couple of hydro hoses, and some connectors, right? If anybody could provide some pics or a schematic of how it is laid out that would be super swell!
Jason H.
Augusta, GA



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Gerald J.

04-13-2005 08:14:55




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 Re: MF 35 Remote Hydraulics in reply to Jason H., 04-12-2005 12:32:08  
Actually its a triple valve on my MF-135. Bolts down in place of a little cover plate and has hoses out the back to four couplers. The left valve runs the three point sort of like the regular arrangement but has a center off position that makes the other valves work. And a back position that lowers the 3 point no matter what the original controls are set for. For they remotes the original controls need to be set for constant pumping. The middle and right valves work the remotes. There was also a single remote version. I've not noticed any in a catalog for a long time. But you might search Prince and Cross on line catalogs.

Gerald J.

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