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dev

01-06-2005 02:57:06




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Hi all, Happy new year. I am about to reassemble the engine of my diesel MF 65 after a complete tear down. I am not exactly sure what assembly lube is and havn"t seen it for sale here in Ireland. I was wondering could a light grease be used/better instead? Or would just plain old engine oil do the trick? I want to be certain that everything will work ok once I get her back together.
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Our Farmer

01-09-2005 06:06:46




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 Re: Assembly lube in reply to dev, 01-06-2005 02:57:06  
If I'm installing a new oil pump (which is always the case on a rebuild) I disassemble it and pack it with petroleum jelly. That way it'll suck oil right from the first turn, and the petroleum jelly just liquifies into the oil. Use engine oil on the cyl walls, but you don't need a whole lot. Assembly lube is most important on bearing surfaces. Don't forget the cam bearings!



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dev

01-07-2005 02:17:44




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 Re: Assembly lube in reply to dev, 01-06-2005 02:57:06  
Hi All, Thanks for your replys. I guess I"ll use ordinary motor oil on the cylinder walls and Stp or vaseline on the bearings and cam.



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txblu

01-08-2005 17:47:39




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 Re: Assembly lube in reply to dev, 01-07-2005 02:17:44  
Didn't read all the responses but I'd surely use STP B4 I used Vaseline. Vaseline breaksdown in the jar on a hot summer day. But really, I'd do what I suggested.

Mark



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Thomas

01-06-2005 14:17:28




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 Re: Assembly lube in reply to dev, 01-06-2005 02:57:06  
Use Vaseline or cooking fat as a 'glue' for holding thing in place. Grease does not fully disolve in oil and so can block oilways.

I always use engine oil in all the crankshaft bearings, bores etc. It is very important although difficult to prevent dirt from getting in and sticking in the oil, I always put on a clean pair of latex gloves before applying lubricant. Spray with brake cleaner first and blow with air line to remove any dirt, then then apply oil straight from a pumping can.

I always leave out the injectors when building up and run the engine on the starter motor until oil pressure has been achieved, and then a bit more to get oil right up to the top of the engine.

The Vaseline is probably more applicable to building up transmissions where you need to keep lots of things in place at any one time, where grease will cause problems blocking hydraulic clutch packs, valves etc.

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Iowadave

01-06-2005 13:27:44




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 Re: Assembly lube in reply to dev, 01-06-2005 02:57:06  
Second the Lubriplate vote, worked good on my 202 rebuild



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Big Dean

01-06-2005 11:24:59




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 Re: Assembly lube in reply to dev, 01-06-2005 02:57:06  
Massey Ferguson says to use petroleum jelly or (Vaseline) I always used STP when I assembled one.



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txblu

01-06-2005 08:02:33




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 Re: Assembly lube in reply to dev, 01-06-2005 02:57:06  
I prefer Lubriplate brand # 105. It is available in autoparts stores here; donno about there. It is in a white tube with torquois cap. Made especially for overhauls; engine bearings especially.

As usaf indicated, it is made to stay put till engine oil takes over.

In a pinch, I think I would either use grease or take grease and motor oil and make a slurry. You want an oil film on those surfaces when you first start up and oil MAY not be there for you.

Also, when I finish doing an engine I turn it over (by hand....wrench) a dozen times or so looking and feeling for any interference, Then I run the oil pump (drill motor) till I get oil on the rocker assy. Then with the plugs/injectors out, spin up the engine real good with the starter. Then I know the oil pump prime worked and oil will be there when I start it.

HTH

Mark

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usaf

01-06-2005 05:35:37




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 Re: Assembly lube in reply to dev, 01-06-2005 02:57:06  
Engine oil will work. If you can find an engine oil additive that looks like a thick or syrupy oil it will work even better. The goal is to have everything lubed till the oil pump completely takes over. The thicker stuff will stay in place better till temperatures and oil flow comes up.
Good luck,
Doc



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chris thompson

01-06-2005 07:56:09




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 Re: Assembly lube in reply to usaf, 01-06-2005 05:35:37  
Hello i see your rebuilding your tractor engine
i have had good luck using STP oil aditive or GM
engine oil suppliment which is really great stuff
but i think that the next engine i rebuild i will
use LUCAS engine oil aditive it is very thick and would be great for the bearings and cylinder walls
GM or lucas would be the best as for cleaning cylinder walls ATF or hand cleaner works excellent to clean all honing stone debris from cylinder walls i wouldnt advise lithium grease unless engine is sitting for long time ? and not on cylinders for sure !!!! anyway good luck and dont forget to prime the oiling system if you cant use a shaft turn engine over untill oil pressure is showing and a little extra to lube bearings exetra just before you start it for the first time !!! anyway good luck with the REBUILD
!!!! Chris Thompson

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dieseldr

01-06-2005 18:27:37




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 Re: Assembly lube in reply to chris thompson, 01-06-2005 07:56:09  
Thick assembly lubes work well in all aresa of an engine EXCEPT on the piston rings/cylinder walls. It should not be used in this area as the heavy bodied lubricants (lucas, stp, etc) are extremely high in extreme pressure additives, which are great for cams and bearings, but when exposed to the high temperatures of combustion will more than likely foul the rings with oxidized residue from these additives resulting in clogging the cross hatch in the liners that the manufacturer or machine shop took such great trouble to put there. On rings and cylinders always use the lubricant that the engine will be run with, and you will not have any trouble.

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