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Massey 101JR? Should I?

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Phillip W.

01-03-2005 13:53:42




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I just went and looked at a (I am told) 51 Massey 101 JR. I know absolutely nothing about these. It has sat for around 15 years after it was rolled over. It has alot of surface rust, but is complete. No water in the oil, not sure if it will turn over. Rims are good. What are these worth and is there tin still around for these? Thanks for any help.




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Phillip W.

01-06-2005 17:35:36




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 Re: Massey 101JR? Should I? in reply to Phillip W., 01-03-2005 13:53:42  
Thank you guys for all your help. It is over an hour a way and I do not plan on going back out to it until the ground dries up so I can move it. It is a flathead 4, has hinged side panels(which of course are missing) and does have the bathtub style cast iron frame. Are these worth restoring?



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Bob N.Y.

01-06-2005 17:20:02




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 Re: Massey 101JR? Should I? in reply to Phillip W., 01-03-2005 13:53:42  
Look for a date on the underside of the bathtub just in front of the tranny. I think the last 101s were equiped with F162 engines. Does it has 4 or 5 forward gears?



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Alberta Mike

01-06-2005 05:29:24




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 Re: Massey 101JR? Should I? in reply to Phillip W., 01-03-2005 13:53:42  
If it has a 4 cylinder flathead engine, it is either a 101/102 Junior (have a cast iron front tub frame) or maybe a 20/22/81/82 (channel iron frame) or maybe it could be a model 30. Because all those Continental engines are swapable, I wouldn't depend on the engine size for a positive ID, it could have been swapped. The model 30 did NOT have hinged side panels but did have the cast iron tub. All the other ones I mentioned did have hinged side panels.

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Dr. Chris

01-05-2005 14:12:10




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 Re: Massey 101JR? Should I? in reply to Phillip W., 01-03-2005 13:53:42  
If you were told it's a 51' and it looks like a 101jr, it might be a MH30. That would fit within that year. If the engine is stamped 140 ci it's a 101jr. If the engine is stamped 162 ci, it's a 30. Same engine block different stroke.



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Phillip W.

01-05-2005 16:56:58




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 Re: Massey 101JR? Should I? in reply to Dr. Chris, 01-05-2005 14:12:10  
I asked the guy if he was sure it was a 51, now he says not sure maybe a 41. Is there any easy way to tell what model it is and where is the engine size stamped? I wish it would quit raining so I could try to pull it out. Thanks again



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Dr. Chris

01-05-2005 17:39:43




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 Re: Massey 101JR? Should I? in reply to Phillip W., 01-05-2005 16:56:58  
The engine stamp is on the side with-out the carb. And the tractor serial number should be on the same side as the engine plate. But, on the frame, where the front half of the tractor meets the rear half. strait under the battery on the outside of the frame. Should be a tag rivited onto the frame. Chances are that tag is gone though. The engine size will be enough to figure out what model.

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Bruce C

01-04-2005 19:20:55




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 Re: Massey 101JR? Should I? in reply to Phillip W., 01-03-2005 13:53:42  
The 101JR was produced from 1939 to 1946.There were 8,632 standard models made.There were 12,133 row-crop models made.The tin from the 102JR's will fit the 101JR.The 102JR was the export version of the 101.If you can get it for a fair price I would buy it.They are a easy tractor to work on.



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Texas Denny

01-04-2005 19:18:35




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 Re: Massey 101JR? Should I? in reply to Phillip W., 01-03-2005 13:53:42  
The last year for the 101 was 1946. A few years ago I saw one with new paint and good tires go for $1000 at an antique tractor auction in Minnesota. They generally bring more than that. If it hasn't run for a long time and it needs all the tin, It would be worth less than $500 to me - maybe $250. Tin will be hard to find - side shields next to impossible. Another may have a different slant.

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phillip w.

01-05-2005 02:16:56




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 Re: Massey 101JR? Should I? in reply to Texas Denny, 01-04-2005 19:18:35  
The owner just wants it removed. Just wondering if it is even woth the hassle. I just hate to leave any tractor sit and rust. Thanks for the replys.



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Texas Denny

01-05-2005 13:19:49




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 Re: Massey 101JR? Should I? in reply to phillip w., 01-05-2005 02:16:56  
If it is no cost, I'd jump on it. I had one of these deals last summer. A guy offered me an Allis Chalmers C for nothing - just come and get it. I got it and it needs a tremendous amount of work. Engine is stuck and don't know yet the extend of difficulties. Now at six months, I'm reassembling the engine and should have it running by Saturday. It's work but should be a lot of fun, too. I think a 101 Jr is a nicer tractor to start with but since it is more rare, parts will be harder to come by. For instance, I have a Massey 44 Special that needed a rear engine seal when I bought it. Massey no longer had them. I found a correct ID seal from Garlock and built a new adaptor to match the new seal and the block. It works perfectly. These things are possible. If you get the tractor, save my email address and I'll help where I can.

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