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If I bought a block splitter, how would I power it

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Rod in Smiths F

12-10-2004 16:38:08




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Is there a simple way to draw power off the pump on a 1961 MF 35 to power a 3pt hitch block splitter? Does the pump produce enough volume/pressure?




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Don-Wi

12-11-2004 09:52:42




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 Re: If I bought a block splitter, how would I powe in reply to Rod in Smiths Falls, ON, , 12-10-2004 16:38:08  
It won't be fast enough by a long shot. if you could rig it up w/ a PTO pump and it's own reservoir, then you could run it no problem. Dunno how much you want to spend on making it work though.
Donovan from Wisconsin



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Thomas

12-11-2004 05:43:06




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 Re: If I bought a block splitter, how would I powe in reply to Rod in Smiths Falls, ON, , 12-10-2004 16:38:08  
It depends on the power requirement, and how the implement is mounted. If you can operate the implement at full lift height, just move the inner lever to the back and take flow from the trailer tipping pipe. The pump runs at about 210 Bar, I'm not sure of the flow rate.

If you need the implement lowered you need to buy a diverter valve which bolts onto the lift cover at the top of the stack pipe (front right corner of the seat you'll see a cover with two bolts). If you get one of these replace the O-Rings on the stack pipe when you fit it. Also some aftermarket units are very tight on getting a spanner in, I use cap head bolts. The genuine ones require longer bolts to be fitted (7/16 UNC).

These two scenarios only give you single acting hydraulics. If you require double acting (ie ram is returned under pressure rather than by gravity / spring) then you can use the second solution to connect a spool block.

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DavidP,South Wales

12-11-2004 13:44:33




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 Re: If I bought a block splitter, how would I powe in reply to Thomas, 12-11-2004 05:43:06  
The power at the point of the chisel shoul be more than adequate log splitters. It only becomes excessively slow when a larger than necessary ram is fitted. I have made a splitter to run on my MF 135 which has a 4 inch bore and 12 inch stroke. Yes, it is slow, but it it will split almost anything. The chisel is 3 inches wide and goes fom zero to about 4 inches wide over 6 inches. You will regret not having a D/A ram. There is a return point to the transmission in the hydraulic cover on the left hand side under the seat or you can use the oil filler hole with necessary fittings.
Cheers
DavidP

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Thomas

12-11-2004 14:44:17




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 Re: If I bought a block splitter, how would I powe in reply to DavidP,South Wales, 12-11-2004 13:44:33  
David, where is the return you're refering to? Are you sure you're not talking about the breather? If you use this as a return you will blow seals on the input shaft of lift shaft. I've seen returns either through a tapped hole in the PTO side cover plate, or by drilling a hole through and welding a fitting to the filler cap. Some diverter valves also have return ports.



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ben uk

12-12-2004 05:19:40




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 Re: If I bought a block splitter, how would I powe in reply to Thomas, 12-11-2004 14:44:17  
There is a return on mine, (UK 135) on the transmission, directly under the seat, left hand side, towards the top.



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Bob S

12-12-2004 05:15:11




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 Re: If I bought a block splitter, how would I powe in reply to Thomas, 12-11-2004 14:44:17  
rod if you want send me your e mail and i will send you a pic where the return goes on the 135 that i have .i would use a pto driven pump,more volume.



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Rod in Smiths Falls, ON,

12-12-2004 05:50:42




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 Re: If I bought a block splitter, how would I powe in reply to Bob S, 12-12-2004 05:15:11  
[email protected]

Mine's a 1961 FE 35 Deluxe, British, with a Perkins and the ground-speed pto option.



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