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11-28-2004 13:20:44




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In reply to below;Just preserving a little bit of history with the Mudsock thing.A nickname of the old town that is now almost completely paved over and built on which includes what used to be a whole production agriculture, township.I would venture to say that 99.9% of the now 50,000 plus population knows nothing of the old nickname.Kind of like Massey Harris and some of the new generation farmers.They have no idea what they missed.

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Harris Guy

11-29-2004 08:48:24




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 Re: Harris guy in reply to msb, 11-28-2004 13:20:44  
I know these history lessons are important,msb. I
keep trying to raise awareness of the 44 Special,
in row crop version. People tend to group this model as " just an 'ol 44", ignored by MF/Agco.
However, it is one of the ten best 'hard work'
tractors built. In Oct '52, there was no better
operator's station, than a RC Special. Though Deere may have coined the phrase, in '60, MH had
it in the field. No hugging transmission cases,
as harry ferguson preferred. The MF platform made
it's debut, in late '64, on the 180. You saw the
blunder, MH buying harry, in '53, while others
just 'borrowed' the 3 point design, year by year.
MHF was a merger of wasted outlay, world leader in S-P combine sales brought a difficult man into
their company, raising havoc. Every parked Special deserves full restoration, the classic correct red tractor.

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msb

11-29-2004 22:27:55




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 Re: Harris guy in reply to Harris Guy, 11-29-2004 08:48:24  
Don't you mean hugging "HOT" transmission cases?Kind of like riding a horse bareback on a 100 degree day or a four wheeler all day,pulling a rope wick.Been there,done that!
Gee, I didn't know the 44 Special was so special.DARN,now I'll probably have to find one of them to restore.LOL, What about the 444? Don't know much about them.bob



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Harris Guy

11-30-2004 08:18:51




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 Re: Harris guy in reply to msb, 11-29-2004 22:27:55  
The 444 was more of a compromise, due to no R&D
budget, under harry's ranting of 'wait for my new
tractors'. The hi/lo transmission, was more off the shelf, unproven, too fragile for 333D's,444's.
The independent PTO never got beyond the drafting
table. Thus, the 444 was weaker than a Special, but geared down, to tear the input shaft/hi-lo
apart. Most 444's have noise beneath the battery
box, from gear/shaft wear. The 5 color paint scheme is classic, unfortunately, the planned inner updates got nixed. The 333G RC is the pick
for matched components, same drive train as the
444 had, so less stressed. Parts are getting rare
for these final series MH models.

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