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Need temp gauge for MF35 Diesel

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Rod in S.F. Ont

10-30-2004 12:04:21

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1. Could somebody with Canadian Tire, Princess Auto, or Massey Ferguson expertise recommend a temperature gauge for my tractor? I think I should have one. I don't even know where it goes on the dash. The big hour meter thingie is beyond recognition.

2. The ground-speed pto setting. What is it for?

3. After a session at the dealer's on Friday I discovered that there's a difference between the American and the British versions of the '35. Mine's a Brit. The oil filter, therefore, did not fit. The centre stem of the Brit is half the diameter of the core of the replacement I bought. The top radiator hose the parts guy offered me, for an American model, was twice too long. I ordered the wrong manual, I guess, and will have to revise that.

Apart from that the oil change went well and I got some serious weed cutting done.

The dealer suggested not changing the transmission fluid until I had done quite a bit of work with the tractor to homogenize whatever is in there.

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The one and only Hamish

11-01-2004 01:37:49

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Re: Need temp gauge for MF35 Diesel in reply to Rod in S.F. Ontario, Cana, 10-30-2004 12:04:21

Ferguson, M.H.F. and MF 35 tractors build in UK all carried the FE designation, right up to 1965 I believe
The only MF 35 that had a temp gauge was the T.V.O. and L.O.engined models that required this info to change fuels when the engine was hot enough.
Petrol engined models only had an oil pressure guage while diesel models had oil and ammeter gauges.
ground speed PTO or "land drive" was used in situations where fertiliser or similar was being spread on land at a specific rate per acre, i.e. the faster you drove the quicker the material was spread to maintain a steady coverage.

Hamish

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C. T. in Oklahoma

10-30-2004 13:06:33

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Re: Need temp gauge for MF35 Diesel in reply to Rod in S.F. Ontario, Cana, 10-30-2004 12:04:21

Rod, I can take a picture of my FE35 (FE means Ferguson England) dash so you can see the placement of the gauges and email it to you if you will provide an email address. Also, the ground speed pto setting means the pto speed is controlled by the speed that the tractor is moving, not by engine speed. C. T.

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Rod in S.F. Ontario, Cana

10-31-2004 13:06:36

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Re: Need temp gauge for MF35 Diesel in reply to C. T. in Oklahoma, 10-30-2004 13:06:33

C.T.: Thank you for the photograph. My machine doesn't have a hole in the dash where you have the temperature gauge. It's a Brit, and a diesel, but I can't see why either of those would free one to ignore the temperature.

I could only assume that the temp gauge was in the big elaborate one in the middle which is broken and unrecognizable, but I don't think it's there, either.

Maybe oil pressure drops so predictably at high temperatures that no additional gauge is necessary .

This tractor seems to run pretty cold. After a couple of hours of work, does anyone's oil get too hot to fish a dropped spring out of an oil pan? It was pretty uncomfortable, but didn't burn.

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C. T. in Oklahoma

10-31-2004 14:28:45

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Re: Need temp gauge for MF35 Diesel in reply to Rod in S.F. Ontario, Cana, 10-31-2004 13:06:36

Rod, I think your are on to something. Mine is a Brit diesel manufactured in Coventry, England also, but mine is, according to the following, a super or special which included a tractormeter, a dual clutch, differential lock, and temperature gauge. See the following that was posted by H. T. Hertz in June, 2003.
"I was told, that FE35 is the designation of the model built at Banner Lane, UK. After the merger with MH, several of the names and logos were indeed changed, but not the basic design. This is why I mean that you are right all of you. My 62 '35 has FE35 on the transmission housing, MF-35 on the nameplate and casting marks. Further, here in Denmark there were no such thing as a Deluxe model. The UK model sold here, (and, I believe in all of Europe) were called Super or Special, the Super with dual clutch, coolant thermometer and tractormeter, the configuration to be seen from the serial number (SNMYW, SNMY, SGM, SHM etc.) As for the 35X it had the A3-152 instead of the 3-152 Perkins. As far as I know there were no AD3-152 (direct injected 45hp) versions of the '35.". Rod, what is your S/N? That might shed a little light on the subject. C. T.

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Rod in S.F. Ontario, Cana

10-31-2004 03:14:54

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Re: Need temp gauge for MF35 Diesel in reply to C. T. in Oklahoma, 10-30-2004 13:06:33

C.T.:

Yes, a photo of an intact dash would be useful. You may send it to [email protected].

I understand how the groundspeed pto works, I just can't speculate as to how I would use it. Any suggestions?

William:

I guess it would be simpler to have a twist-type filter on the engine, but I've used the canister-type for 22 years on the Chrysler M47 on my boat, and I kinda like them.

What I don't know about are the two filters for the diesel fuel. The gas line filter on my boat turned out to be a felt thingie off an oil furnace. I changed it about 15 years ago when it wouldn't let fuel through any more because of rust and crud. There hasn't been a problem since, but I have heard that diesels are less tolerant of bad fuel than gas engines.

Rod

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C. T. in Oklahoma

10-31-2004 13:04:19

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Re: Need temp gauge for MF35 Diesel in reply to Rod in S.F. Ontario, Cana, 10-31-2004 03:14:54

Rod, My neighbor (he farms about 350 acres) has had many tractors and had never had a need for a ground speed pto. He said he has only owned one tractor (a MF 65) that even has it as an option. He has 4 JD's, has had Allis and one MF. Maybe somebody else will respond to your question. C. T.

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William Bos

10-30-2004 12:52:56

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Re: Need temp gauge for MF35 Diesel in reply to Rod in S.F. Ontario, Cana, 10-30-2004 12:04:21

Hi Rod,

The UK models have Lucas starters on them, which in my opinion are a better heavier built starter than the Delco. Thats what we have also, and wont be switching to a Delco. Also, If your 35 still has the canister oil filter on it, get a spin-on conversion head for it. Oil changes will be alot easier.

Take care

Will

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