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John in CA

10-11-2004 19:26:25




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My 35 has steering wheel play. The wheel moves up and down before moving arms. My owners manuel says to remove shims but the wheel has to come off. Is there an easer way to do this? And if the wheel moves up 1/8 of an inch what thicknes of shims needs to be removed? There only seems to be 1/32 of shims.




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Big Dean

10-12-2004 09:25:57




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 Re: to 35 steering wheel play in reply to John in CA, 10-11-2004 19:26:25  
If you have a power steering gear the shaft is designed to move up about a that much that is so the direction selector valve spool can move up and down to select which direction it is turning. If it is a manual steering gear it most likely has the steering shaft bearings worn out.

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txblu

10-12-2004 07:16:14




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 Re: to 35 steering wheel play in reply to John in CA, 10-11-2004 19:26:25  
Paradigm. Don't know if this applies to MF.

Neighbor had a Deere doing that. Removed steering parts and found that there were face to face mounted cone shaped roller bearings at the top of the sheet metal (area) to hold the shaft in place (like for when you use the steering wheel for getting on and off the tractor and pull sideways on it).

This bearings had completely desintegrated (due to it sitting outside and rain getting in there) which allowed the slop; probably 1/2" up and down. When you would turn the wheel one way, the shaft would rise the distance, then started pushing on the steering shaft to the front axles, and turning the other way it went back down the distance before pushing on the steering.

The steering was accomplished by 2 worm gears,one on the shaft and another on the "steering box", separated by balls (like in ball bearings). The way the thing is supposed to work, by locking the shaft in an immovable position (these bearings plus associated steering housing, plus shims, plus lock nut) when the steering shaft is rotated (by the steering wheel) the shaft can't move up and down. This forces the "box" attached to it (as stated) to follow the screw action. This makes the box move up or down as directed. The box is bolted to the steering linkage to the front axle. Moving the box steers the tractor.

DON'T unscrew the steering (wheel) shaft. Keep it in the position of the wheels straight ahead. For if you do, all these balls fall out and you have a real mess trying to get them back in. (I addressed this on this forum couple of days ago). Just remove the wheel and work the bearing,races out.

HTH

Mark

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txblu

10-12-2004 07:31:07




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 Re: to 35 steering wheel play in reply to txblu, 10-12-2004 07:16:14  
Just went looking for my post incase you did the unheard of and unscrewed the steering shaft. Now I can't find it, but look in the archives under txblu. It'll be there somewhere. If you sort by most recent date, it should be withing the first 30 or so postings. I like to blab.

Mark



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