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MF 175 Mystery Lever and 3 pt control question

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Citizen Zero

09-04-2004 11:58:58




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I recently bought a 1971 MF 175, being the tractor newbie that I am, it has generated many questions and few answers.

First up the mystery lever.. When facing forward there is a lever on the right hand side of the transmission housing that appears to be marked "ground" "neutral" and "engine". What does this lever do?

Second, the hitch control..
This lever has several settings, up down etc. There has been a stop bolted in that prevents it from being moved beyond "transport" over to constant pump and the high - low pressure range. Will removing this stop and moving the lever into the high pressure range improve the lift pump performance?

Any advice is very welcome.

Thanks! c0

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Citizen Zero

09-05-2004 00:22:03




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 Re: MF 175 Mystery Lever and 3 pt control question in reply to Citizen Zero, 09-04-2004 11:58:58  
Thanks for all of the info! I am working on getting a manual for this monster. Looks like the lift pump is close to shot, the warmer that the fluid gets the less lift is available. Right now, it cannot lift a full bucket of dirt. Looks like I am off to the dealership for a new pump.

One thing that I am curious about though. How do you purge all water out of the hydraulic system? I changed out all of the fluid, only to have it go white again (although not as white as the initial fluid that I drained).

Thanks Again!!

c0

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ben uk

09-05-2004 06:11:23




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 Re: MF 175 Mystery Lever and 3 pt control question in reply to Citizen Zero, 09-05-2004 00:22:03  
Out of interest what fluid did you use in the hydraulic system?

The lift on my 135 was crap as well. I put in John Deeres "hi-gard" and it now works perfectly. Be warned, its expensive!



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Citizen Zero

09-05-2004 08:07:24




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 Re: MF 175 Mystery Lever and 3 pt control question in reply to ben uk, 09-05-2004 06:11:23  
I used generic tractor blood from the local farm supply. Looks like I may have to change the fluid and brand.. My Bad.

c0



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C. T. in Oklahoma

09-04-2004 12:38:44




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 Re: MF 175 Mystery Lever and 3 pt control question in reply to Citizen Zero, 09-04-2004 11:58:58  
The mystery lever is the PTO control. Neutral means PTO is not in use. Engine means that PTO speed is controlled by the engine speed. Ground means that ground speed is controlling the PTO. I am not a farmer, just use my 35 on five acres, and I have no use for "Ground". I have seen comments on this site that if you use the ground for a brush hog, it is very hard to stop the tractor. I will let someone else comment on the second question. C. T.

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ben uk

09-04-2004 12:33:13




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 Re: MF 175 Mystery Lever and 3 pt control question in reply to Citizen Zero, 09-04-2004 11:58:58  
the mystery lever is your PTO lever, used to engage/disengage the PTO when you have your foot right down on the clutch.

"ground" is where the PTO will turn in direct proportion to the speed at which the trator is travelling. You dont need to know about that - its not used much. Engine is the one you want to use for nearly all PTO implements. The PTO turns at the speed that the engine is running.

the levers on your right. The far one is draft control, use it when your plowing, the rest of the time keep it all the way up in high position.

The left lever has Position control which is used when you want an implement to hold steady, ie with a back blade. Thats the bit towards the back. The bit towards the front is for remote hydraulics. If you want to use these, ie for a tipping trailer, undo the "stop" thing, and put it right down the bottom. Now push the left hand lever right down to the bottom, now you can connect your hose. When you actually want to tip or whatever your using it for, pull the lever up, but dont go into the position control section. (ie only go half way up). To hold the trailer up you can go about half way. (ie a quarter of the whole distance)

If you have any more wuestions post them here, or email me, [email protected]

Ben

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Thomas

09-04-2004 12:27:35




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 Re: MF 175 Mystery Lever and 3 pt control question in reply to Citizen Zero, 09-04-2004 11:58:58  
The lever is the PTO selector. Engine connects the PTO to the engine via the clutch second stage, neutral is self explanitory, ground connects the PTO to the transmission so that PTO shaft speed is relative to ground speed. I"m not sure what the ratio is. i assume you mean the left hand side of the transmission when sitting in the seat?

The Hi-Lo pressure ranges on the quadrant are for use with a pressure control hitch. I don"t know of anyone who uses one or has ever used one. It was a feature which never took off which involved chaining the drawbar of a trailed implement/trailer to the device, so that when traction was lost the drawbar would be pulled up, transfering weight onto the rear wheels of the tractor from the implement. More often it bent the drawbar on the implement I am told... So in answer to your question no it will not improve lift performance. If it is poor first port of call is the o-rings on the pump to head stack pipe. Sitting in the seat, on your right hand side, on top of the lift head (what the seat is bolted to) you will see either a plate or a selector valve secured by two bolts. Remove this and the stack pipe sticking up. Replace the o-rings and reassemble, being careful to get the pipe back into the hole in the pump. Next try the strainer which is a bit more involved. Recommend buying a workshop manual if you need to do this so you can see the layout inside.

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