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What is the length of the MF65 Dipstick?

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Jeff-oh

07-26-2004 06:40:26




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Model: 1958 MF65
Engine: C. G-176 gas

What is the correct length of the high and low oil marks for the engine oil dip stick?

I changed the oil and filter this weekend and after 5+ quarts it was reading over full. The dips stick in the engine seemed long and there were two score marks that someone had put on it. Thus, I am not sure whether to trust the score marks as the high-low area or the "manufactured" region.

Your input is appreciated.

Jeff

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tractor dan

07-27-2004 06:57:21




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 Re: What is the length of the MF65 Dipstick? in reply to Jeff-oh, 07-26-2004 06:40:26  
Just for the record - capacity on the G176 is six U.S. quarts if the filter is changed.



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Jeff-oh

07-27-2004 10:53:07




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 Re: Re: What is the length of the MF65 Dipstick? in reply to tractor dan, 07-27-2004 06:57:21  
Dan, I don't totally dissagree, as I put in 6 quarts and the dip-stick reads full.

However, As Big Dean said below, The Manual on page 1, says...

Diesel
A4-203 6 US Quart 5 Imperial Quart
AD4-203 7.5 US Quart 6.2 Imperial Quart
G-176 7 U.S. quarts 5.8 Imperial Quarts.

Add 1/2 quart to all engines when filter is changed.

What referance do you read 6 quarts for the G176 from?

In a 1963 I&T manual (page 3) it lists....
Diesel
A4- 6 Quarts
AD4- 7 quarts
G176- 5 Quarts

I guess I trust the MF manual over the I&T but there is a difference... and is is not clear, particularly when I know my dip-stick is wrong.

Jeff

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tractor dan

07-29-2004 07:18:56




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 Re: Re: Re: What is the length of the MF65 Dipstic in reply to Jeff-oh, 07-27-2004 10:53:07  
I got the 6 quart number from my genuine original MF65 manual. Specifications Page 73



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Jeff-oh

07-27-2004 05:50:27




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 Re: What is the length of the MF65 Dipstick? in reply to Jeff-oh, 07-26-2004 06:40:26  
Thanks for the replies all.

God works in mysterious ways... After posting my question I overheard a couple of guys talking about their tractors over by the copy machines here at work. Turns out, one of them owns a 1964 gas MF-65, also. I talk to him and he brought in his oil dipstick today. Never knew he had a tractor before, let alone the one I was interested in.

I did a side-by-side comparison and, as suspected, my dipstick is too long. The score marks on it lined up with the full mark and the top of the blade portion.

The dipstick he brought in has the following:
ID number: G1761-3020 or G176I-3020 not sure if it's an I or a 1.

Lengths from bottom of bell housing....
To...
top of blade- 4 7/16
full line- 5 5/16
bottom of safe zone-Danger line- 6 3/4
Overall - 8 inches

Interestingly enough the Full line on my "faulty" dipstick lined up with the Danger Low oil line. Good thing I had a manual and knew how much oil to put in it.... Although it still bothers me a little that I put in 6 quarts and it reads right at full when I should have put in 7 1/2 per Deans post.

Can anyone compare their Gas MF65 C.G176 dipstick with the above measurements or ID number?... It is always possible his was a replacement too.

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Big Dean

07-26-2004 22:59:29




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 Re: What is the length of the MF65 Dipstick? in reply to Jeff-oh, 07-26-2004 06:40:26  
The MF65 diesel holds 7-1/2 quarts when the filter is changed



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C. T. in Oklahoma

07-26-2004 13:48:57




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 Re: What is the length of the MF65 Dipstick? in reply to Jeff-oh, 07-26-2004 06:40:26  
Jeff, I have the exact measurements for the 65 diesel. If somebody can tell us (Big Dean??) that the gas and diesel are the same, I will send them to you.
C. T.



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tractor dan

07-26-2004 11:59:35




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 Re: What is the length of the MF65 Dipstick? in reply to Jeff-oh, 07-26-2004 06:40:26  
What do you mean "5+" quarts? Isn't the capacity 5 quarts with a filter change?



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Jeff-oh

07-26-2004 13:16:14




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 Re: Re: What is the length of the MF65 Dipstick? in reply to tractor dan, 07-26-2004 11:59:35  
I mean I put in 5 full quarts and what was left of another (like 90% left). The manual calls for 7 quarts and another 1/2 quart with filter change.

However, the dipstick I am already over the full mark. That is why I stopped filling.

Jeff



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cat

07-26-2004 10:50:00




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 Re: What is the length of the MF65 Dipstick? in reply to Jeff-oh, 07-26-2004 06:40:26  
How tall are you? LOL



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Jeff-oh

07-26-2004 13:13:59




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 Re: Re: What is the length of the MF65 Dipstick? in reply to cat, 07-26-2004 10:50:00  
Yea, yea, yea... you sound like my wife. I get no respect. LOL



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