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MF 245 gas tank cleaning

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Louie

07-09-2004 10:02:51




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Recently while bushhoging in an old pasture, while going through extremely thick hay, in low second gear,the tractor bogged down and stopped.

It has done this before but always started right back up. However this time it cranked but would not start. I could find nothing wrong, so I winched it up onto my trailer and took it to the local dealer. He told me that he found a piece of trash in the fuel line.

Filter is new, so is the screen on the bottom of the tank, I buy diesel from a reputable dealer and use a clean container to transport the diesel and fill up the tank with the use of a funnel which has a strainer.

It ran fine for a couple of hours but then bogged down a second time while in thick grass. I had the RPM's right and was in a very low gear. I went through the same process and it would not start again even though it cranked strong. I was told that if it happened again the tank had to be taken off and cleaned.

Both times I was low on fuel, about 1 inch in the tank.

Is this normal for a 245 built in 1978? How complicated is it to remove the gas tank? What is the best process to use to clean an old diesel gas tank? Anything I should watch out for?

I appreciate any advice.
Louie in French Settlement LA

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Scott from Pa.

07-31-2004 17:24:38




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 Re: MF 245 gas tank cleaning in reply to Louie, 07-09-2004 10:02:51  
Louie, Put an inch of fuel in your tank, with the tank being off of the tractor of course, go out in your driveway and grab a hand full of clean stones, pebbles, whatever, and put the stones in the tank with the fuel,put the cap on your tank and slosh the hell out of it. After about ten minutes of sloshing empty fuel and stones out of tank. You will be amazed at what it looks like inside.



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smokey

07-12-2004 04:57:43




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 Re: MF 245 gas tank cleaning in reply to Louie, 07-09-2004 10:02:51  
I had a similar problem with an MF135. The tank was rusty and I had another tank I had taken off a MF135 burnt in a fire. This tank was coated in black Carbon. I had washed it out as much as I could and I needed to clean the cylindrical filter on the fuel tap and the screen mesh filter above the bowl at the lift pump several times before I got the rubbish out of the system.

Always keep your tasnk full of diesel to reduce condensation and never let the tank run out as it damages the high pressure fuel pump. This pump requires diesel fuel to provide lubrication.

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MF

07-09-2004 20:48:38




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 Re: MF 245 gas tank cleaning in reply to Louie, 07-09-2004 10:02:51  
Louie, I would "suggest" that you keep your tank fairly full to reduce the amount of condensation that forms, especially in humid La. Can you see inside the tank enough to tell if it's rusty? Steam cleaning, as mentioned, works, so does soaking in vinegar a few days. I checked an '80 245 awile back with over 4000 hours and it was clean as could be. If you only had an "inch" of fuel in the tank, it 'may' have sloshed enough to get air in the line which would kill the engine and prevent a restart. The owner's manual details how to bleed the lines, not that hard to do. May need to blow out the fuel lines and bleed before you pull the tank. Also, on that same tractor there was a broken plastic 'tee' return line that allowed fuel to leak out when full. It's just behind the tank, in front of the battery. Just a thought.

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MF

07-09-2004 20:45:07




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 Re: MF 245 gas tank cleaning in reply to Louie, 07-09-2004 10:02:51  
Louie, I would "suggest" that you keep your tank fairly full to reduce the amount of condensation that forms, especially in humid La. Can you see inside the tank enough to tell if it's rusty? Steam cleaning, as mentioned, works, so does soaking in vinegar a few days. I checked an '80 245 awile back with over 4000 hours and it was clean as could be. If you only had an "inch" of fuel in the tank, it 'may' have sloshed enough to get air in the line which would kill the engine and prevent a restart. The owner's manual details how to bleed the lines, not that hard to do. May need to blow out the fuel lines and bleed before you pull the tank. Just a thought.

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Bob

07-09-2004 17:20:58




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 Re: MF 245 gas tank cleaning in reply to Louie, 07-09-2004 10:02:51  
I have had the same problem with my 65 diesel. It has a cylindrical screen on the fuel outlet in the tank. That screen was covered with black slime that was shutting off the fuel.



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Rick(ont)

07-09-2004 11:17:02




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 Re: MF 245 gas tank cleaning in reply to Louie, 07-09-2004 10:02:51  
Hi. Had the same thing happen on my 35 diesel. Took the tank off and took it to a rad repair shop and had them steam it out. Came back really clean and they don't charge very much to do it. Just fill it up with fuel right away to prevent rust. Taking the tank off is not a very big job. Usually requires taking off the hood and undoing the straps.



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