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PTO GRINDS NEED HELP -JUST BOUGHT TRACTOR!!

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Sean

06-09-2004 19:47:35

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Hi,
Just bought a MF 282 today. Yesterday, the dealer looked at the pto and said it was engaging when I put it in engine speed as I sat in the seat. Or so I thought. Got it home today, hooked it up to bushhog, PTO only grinds when I try to engage. Ground speed PTO will engage fine. Bummer, can't use my new tractor. Can someone give me advice on what to fix or why it won't engage?
Thanks,
Sean

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Sean-Thanks-Fixed!!

06-10-2004 18:02:09

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Re: PTO GRINDS NEED HELP -JUST BOUGHT TRACTOR!! in reply to Sean, 06-09-2004 19:47:35

THANKS!

After adjusting and re-adjusting all day to no avail, I decided to start it up with the PTO engaged and just mow a little while. I mowed about 20ft of tall grass and heard something make a noise. I thought that's either good or bad, so I pulled the PTO out, pushed the clutch all the way in and it went right back into PTO with barley any chatter. I guess a frozen disk or something popped loose. Thanks very much for all the advice.
Sean

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06-10-2004 15:52:15

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Re: PTO GRINDS NEED HELP -JUST BOUGHT TRACTOR!! in reply to Sean, 06-09-2004 19:47:35

Did you pay by check? If so, STOP payment!...UNLESS you agreed to "As-Is". He would EAT this one!!

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DP SOUTH WALES

06-10-2004 12:29:42

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Re: PTO GRINDS NEED HELP -JUST BOUGHT TRACTOR!! in reply to Sean, 06-09-2004 19:47:35

Hi,
Your dealer sounds like an ****hole or he knows something you don't. Not sure about this model as it is not one available in the UK but may be equivalent to our 298 with an A4.318 engine. Assuming it's a two stage clutch, do you have about an inch of free pedal travel, then through the first stage and into the second about halfway down? As has been said, the adjustment is carried out through the hole where the belly plate is fitted. A gauge or feeler of about 2mm is usually satisfactory to give the correct clearance. First of all shine a light inside with the engine stopped. Ask an assistant to operate the pedal. You should see the front half of the clutch assy move rearwards. Press down fully and the movement will continue as the adjusters meet the PTO pressure plate. The movement in each case should be around 2mm. If it barely moves the adjustment is out and requires 2 1/2" AF spanners to make the 3 adjustments. Be careful...grazed knuckles time!!!
Other problems might be that the PTO plate is seized on its shaft, the plate is stuck to the flywheel plate or there may be oil on the linings.

Hope this is of some help.

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Tom

06-10-2004 05:39:06

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Re: PTO GRINDS NEED HELP -JUST BOUGHT TRACTOR!! in reply to Sean, 06-09-2004 19:47:35

Call the dealer today and then take the tractor back right away. The dealer will probably make it right IF you don't delay, and IF you don't attempt the adjustments yourself. I realize it is a used tractor, probably without warranty, but since you just picked it up, the dealer will more than likely take care of you. Do not delay.

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Sean

06-10-2004 11:52:45

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Re: Re: PTO GRINDS NEED HELP -JUST BOUGHT TRACTOR! in reply to Tom, 06-10-2004 05:39:06

no, I just called the dealer, he said try to adjust the PTO clutch and "good luck"

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Big Dean

06-09-2004 20:59:18

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Re: PTO GRINDS NEED HELP -JUST BOUGHT TRACTOR!! in reply to Sean, 06-09-2004 19:47:35

There is an Internal pto clutch adjustment made up through the hole in the bottom of the bell housing. Either it or the pedal free travel needs adjusting or maybe both. If you would like to have it I have a picture that shows how you make these adjustments I could email it to you.

Big Dean's Massey Ferguson web site

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sean

06-10-2004 11:58:57

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Re: Re: PTO GRINDS NEED HELP -JUST BOUGHT TRACTOR! in reply to Big Dean, 06-09-2004 20:59:18

Hi,

Thanks for teh pic it helped alot. Unfortunatley it still will grind and not go into PTO.

I adjust the release bearing fork shaft all the way to the right then backed it off a tiny bit. After adjusting th estop bolt a few times, i finally put it all the out with no clearance to see what would happen. It still wouldn't go into PTO, just grinds. Is there too much free play somewhere else?

thanks very much,
Sean

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sean

06-09-2004 21:35:03

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Re: Re: PTO GRINDS NEED HELP -JUST BOUGHT TRACTOR! in reply to Big Dean, 06-09-2004 20:59:18

tahnsk, sent you my email address that should work for sending pics, or try the

[email protected]

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sean

06-09-2004 21:37:48

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Re: Re: Re: PTO GRINDS NEED HELP -JUST BOUGHT TRAC in reply to sean, 06-09-2004 21:35:03

i meant:

sean_eric@excite .com

sorry, spelled it wrong

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Bill in TN

06-10-2004 15:56:02

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Re: Re: Re: Re: PTO GRINDS NEED HELP -JUST BOUGHT in reply to sean, 06-09-2004 21:37:48

You could always shut the tractor off and engage the PTO then start it up and use the tractor. Also, stand on the clutch when trying to engage it. i.e. make sure you have the clutch all the way down.

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