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Transmission/hydraulic capacity

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Michael Oakes

05-26-2004 23:58:27




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Hi all,

How much trans/hyd oil would an FE35 hold? It has a front end loader too.

Kind Regards
Michael Oakes




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Rod B

11-27-2005 10:20:51




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 Re: Transmission/hydraulic capacity in reply to Michael Oakes, 05-26-2004 23:58:27  
Original Owners manual for FE35 shows Trans/Diff/Hydo capacity of 6.6 Imp gals. Above 40F use No90 Gear oil and below 40F use No80 Gear oil. Steering box uses the same. Use Non detergent straight mineral oil. The trans/hydo and rear axles are encased in one housing. The oil lubs all of them.



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tony cappuchi

05-27-2004 10:34:50




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 Re: Transmission/hydraulic capacity in reply to Michael Oakes, 05-26-2004 23:58:27  
I have a MF Diesel 35 with 38 HP 3 Cyl Perkins.I need to know what type oil I should add to transmission case and where do you put it in at. My dip stick says its low and I would like to keep it between the lines.What type and weight do you reccomend also should I use synthetic oil thanks Tony C



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TONY C

05-28-2004 15:05:02




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 Re: Re: Transmission/hydraulic capacity in reply to tony cappuchi, 05-27-2004 10:34:50  
thanks for the info,you made my day. TONY C.



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Deere

10-28-2006 10:25:47




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 Re: Re: Re: Transmission/hydraulic capacity in reply to TONY C, 05-28-2004 15:05:02  
What weight oil do you use in the transmission of a 235 MF



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135 Fan

10-28-2006 10:46:40




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 Re: Re: Re: Transmission/hydraulic capacity in reply to Deere, 10-28-2006 10:25:47  
MF perma-tran 3 from the dealer is best for your 235. I've used equivelent oils but the MF oil works the best. Dave



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C. T. in Oklahoma

05-27-2004 15:33:51




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 Re: Re: Transmission/hydraulic capacity in reply to tony cappuchi, 05-27-2004 10:34:50  
Tony, There is a 1" bolt to the left of the shifter that is where you add oil. My manual says use SAE 90 straight mineral gear oil. I know you can get it from your Massey Ferguson dealer. C. T.



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sibby(Aus)

05-27-2004 17:54:46




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 Re: Re: Re: Transmission/hydraulic capacity in reply to C. T. in Oklahoma, 05-27-2004 15:33:51  
I phoned both Mobil and Shell info centres, Mobil recommends Agri-Super which replaces Super Universal. This oil surpasses M.F. 1139 speccies, and can be used in all Massey tractors from the 35 upwards,It doubles as an engine oil also, having 10w-30 engine oil viscosity.The rear end hydraulics rating is Gl480 gear rating which surpasses Massey reccomendation for GL1. Shell reccomends Agroma M.P. for all massey tractors from 35 upwards, it has a 15w 40 engine oil rating, and suitable for all rear ends, both Mobil and Shell . The price down under is ~ $80 per 20 litre drum, i do not work or have any financial interest in either company, feel free to pick up your own phone and enquire as i have, i will not argue and not interested in back lash or rude comments on this subject as have been directed at me in the past for trying to help someone out, and get kicked in the guts and back stabbed in the process.thanking you and good day!!!

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tony c.

05-28-2004 15:02:43




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Transmission/hydraulic capacity in reply to sibby(Aus), 05-27-2004 17:54:46  
thanks for your help,ref oil tony c.



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C. T. in Oklahoma

05-28-2004 06:05:30




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Transmission/hydraulic capacity in reply to sibby(Aus), 05-27-2004 17:54:46  
Sibby, I have a hard time understanding how your (and many others) help could not be appreciated. I have solved several things with my tractor based on information I have received from folks like you. I certainly thank you. C. T.



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sibby(Aus)

05-28-2004 07:24:26




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Transmission/hydraulic capacit in reply to C. T. in Oklahoma, 05-28-2004 06:05:30  
C.T., The problem seems to be we are half a world apart, there are different model tractors over here, yous have gas(Petrol) we call fuel, gas for l.p. gas in vehicles, we dont have gas Perkins, only diesel, i never heard of gas version until i had it shoved down my throat when i answered a post about a perkins engine thinking they were only diesel models. OILS differ also, not the M.F. requirement of say M.F. 1139 for instance, i was astonished there wasnt a barrage of you cant use that oil in that machine, why are people so short fused and rude with critisism when someone makes a comment or reccomendation, when they are honestly only trying to help out, i have noticed people even hold back in fear of getting roasted or belittled for making or requesting something STUPID and its just not fair, i thought we lived in a democracy which gave an indivual the right to speak freely without ridicule, but alas, not so. Good Night, just past midnight down under.

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TONY CAPPUCHI

05-25-2005 08:48:55




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Transmission/hydraulic cap in reply to sibby(Aus), 05-28-2004 07:24:26  
SIBBY, I FOR ONE THANK YOU AND OTHERS LIKE YOU FOR ANY FEEDBACK I GET ABOUT MS35 WHAT YOU IS MORE THAN I KNOW AND IT ALL HELPS .AGAIN THANKS TONY C.



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sibby(Aus)

05-27-2004 03:18:39




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 Re: Transmission/hydraulic capacity in reply to Michael Oakes, 05-26-2004 23:58:27  
Michael, about 5 1/2 imperial gallons from memory for your transmission and rear end, your hydraulic pump feeds from same source. i usually buy 2x20 litre drums and keep the rest spare for top ups etc. cheers cobber and good luck.



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C. T. in Oklahoma

05-27-2004 06:11:02




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 Re: Re: Transmission/hydraulic capacity in reply to sibby(Aus), 05-27-2004 03:18:39  
Sibby, my book calls for 8 US/6.7 imperial, plus I have a dipstick on the right side near the differential lock. Mine is a 1964, but the book is not specific to year, just model. C. T.



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Michael Oakes

05-27-2004 03:39:30




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 Re: Re: Transmission/hydraulic capacity in reply to sibby(Aus), 05-27-2004 03:18:39  
Thanks Sibby.



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HEY MICHAEL??? sibby(Aus)

05-29-2004 11:41:38




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 Re: Re: Re: Transmission/hydraulic capacity in reply to Michael Oakes, 05-27-2004 03:39:30  
Michael, were you asking about the heat start unit for your 35, or was it someone else.? My local Massey dealer has them available new for $25.50+G.S.T. cheers, sibby.



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Michael Oakes

05-30-2004 03:37:57




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Transmission/hydraulic capacity in reply to HEY MICHAEL??? sibby(Aus), 05-29-2004 11:41:38  
Hi Sibby,

Yes I wanted to know about the heat start setup for my 35. First of all I need to know the details of how it works. The inlet manifold on my machine has a plugged hole near the air cleaner end. There are also 4 lines going into the head above the injectors with a feed from the fuel tank. There is also a little unit at the back of the fuel tank that feeds into the fuel filter but goes nowhere else. And I can find no electric heating system.

Which parts are missing?

Kind Regards
Michael Oakes

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sibby(Aus)

05-30-2004 04:24:08




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Transmission/hydraulic capacit in reply to Michael Oakes, 05-30-2004 03:37:57  
Michael, There should be a heater unit screwed into your inlet manifold, perhaps it has been removed, hence the plug in the manifold to blank off the hole . Maybe it became faulty and allowed fuel to dribble into manifold while running or flood the engine with diesel when not running, only my thoughts , and the owner disconnected the system. The unit screws into the manifold, it has a heating element which heats when you turn your start key anti clockwise, it also allows diesel fuel to dribble onto the element and vaporise to assist starting when it is drawn into the cylinders. The fuel is supplied from a little tank mounted about half way up the fuel tank which i think is replenished from your fuel return or bleed line. I have asked my local Massey dealer to check up on availability of genuine 35 owners and workshop manual, he said they should be still available and i will post you when he finds out. cheers for now, sibby. P.S. is the weather getting cold down there, pretty cool here last night.

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Michael Oakes

05-30-2004 04:47:12




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Transmission/hydraulic cap in reply to sibby(Aus), 05-30-2004 04:24:08  
Hi Sibby,

Yeah, it's getting cold alright. -3C tonight. Thanks for checking on the manuals. I am waiting for an operators manual i have already paid for. I used the FE35 today (first time) for ripping some dirt and then rotary hoeing it. Plenty of power and depth however the 3PL is quite worn out and the ripper wouldn't stay straight. Also the PTO shaft for the hoe was too short. I'll have to get a longer one or an extension piece.

And I couldn't get the PTO clutch to disengage. I don't want to be too rough on it. Any ideas?

Kind Regards
Michael Oakes

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sibby(Aus)

05-30-2004 23:13:54




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Transmission/hydraulic in reply to Michael Oakes, 05-30-2004 04:47:12  
Michael, The p.t.o. plate could be stuck, do you have a slasher to put a load on it to try to unstick it, warm the tractor up first and then try using it and depress the clutch pedal on and off while changing engine revs. If not it could be your clutch adjustment, i will explain it to you later if you want. cheerio, sibby.



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Michael Oakes

05-31-2004 01:45:08




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Transmission/hydra in reply to sibby(Aus), 05-30-2004 23:13:54  
Hi Sibby,

I don't have a slasher but I do have a 5' rotary hoe. I'll do that and be a little rougher with it. I just have a little more repsect for it because it's older than me.

Kind Regards
Michael Oakes



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sibby(Aus)

05-31-2004 04:00:31




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Transmission/h in reply to Michael Oakes, 05-31-2004 01:45:08  
Michael, be careful with a rotary hoe, you can hurt yourself or someone else if the blades are touching the ground and spinning, the rotor will push your tractor along out of gear at the rotor speed, do you understand what i mean.? BE VERY CAREFUL !!! Try to lift the rotary hoe up with the p.t.o. out of gear, switch off your engine, then pull the p.t.o. into gear ,then start your engine and lower and raise your hydraulics to place load on clutch and hopefully unstick it. Good LUCK.

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Michael Oakes

05-31-2004 04:42:41




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Transmissi in reply to sibby(Aus), 05-31-2004 04:00:31  
Thanks Sibby. Don't worry I'll be careful.



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