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Massey 35 Deluxe (value)

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Scott in SC

12-10-2003 10:31:30




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There is a tractor that will sell at a local auction this Saturday. It is a Massey 35 "Deluxe"? with a loader and a scrape blade. Everything has been restored, and the tractor looks "new". I'd love to buy it, but have no idea what it might be worth.I have a few John Deeres, and a couple of Allis-Chalmers, but I'm not at all familiar with the Massey. Any help would be great! Thanks, Scott




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Alvin n Ms.

12-11-2003 09:06:08




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 Re: Massey 35 Deluxe (value) in reply to Scott in SC, 12-10-2003 10:31:30  
Scott,to some people restored means a new paint job, plugging up the seep hole under the bell housing so oil won't leak out, they may even install new brake shoes, so that the brakes will work temporarily, but neglect replacing the outer axle oil seals, that will keep the shoes from getting saturated again in a short time. Deluxe, to some people is just a sticker on the hood. Should be extras like spin out wheels, which you don't need unless you are a row crop farmer.Multipower, which you are better off without, because you can't pull start, and other problems. Keep in mind people take things to auctions because they don't want to stand behind them. The MF35 is (was) a fantastic tractor, so if it was all that good, he would certainly have no problem selling it at home. I would say that it is worth up to $3500.00 without seeing it.

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Scott in SC

12-11-2003 09:37:22




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 Re: Re: Massey 35 Deluxe (value) in reply to Alvin n Ms., 12-11-2003 09:06:08  
Thanks for the info, and I agree with you about auctions. I've found some really good buys, but I"ve also purchased someone else's problems, too.I mainly just wanted a starting point, a basic idea what the tractor might be worth, and you gave me just that.I saw a JD 720 diesel, tricycle front,pony motor froze, transmission not going in all gears, in POOR shape, sell at auction for $8700. Maybe this guy is hoping for something similar.Thanks again.

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Alvin n Ms.

12-11-2003 19:44:02




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 Re: Re: Re: Massey 35 Deluxe (value) in reply to Scott in SC, 12-11-2003 09:37:22  
Multi Power transmission leak problems On tractors with Multi Power there are four steel rings they are on the pto & main input shafts these rings will wear grooves inside the front retainer & the pto input shaft. When these grooves get deep enough they will start to let the pressure that apply the clutch pack for high Multi Power bypass. This lets the pressure get to the two lip seals for the input shafts. These lip seals will not hold the pressure, causing a transmission oil leak. The oil will start to run out of the weep hole on the bottom of the bell housing. Usually it will not leak when the Multi Power is in low because there is no pressure there in low. You will find a lot of tractors with the linkage adjusted or unhooked so you can no longer get them in high this is done a lot to hide leaks when someone wants to sell a tractor that has this problem. I have also seen a lot of weep holes plugged to hide these leaks.


Thing to check when buying a MF tractor On the bell housing there is a weep hole on the bottom it should have a cotter pin head sticking down twist it around Check there for leaks. It Is all right if it is a little damp around it but should not have a steady drip of oil. If the pin head is not there stick something up in the hole and move it around to make sure it is not plug people will plug that hole to hide transmission leaks. It can get very expensive to repair those leaks. After it gets warmed up let it idle a couple of minutes then run it up about 1500 rpm there should not be any blue smoke come out the exhaust. Put something on the three point the heavier the better, raise up and shut off the engine it probably will seep down. That is normal but it shouldn't fall steady. Try to have the hydraulic oil hot when you do this test. On the MF50 & MF65 also the 150 through 180. Behind the grill is the power steering cylinder if it hasn't been cleaned up it will have oil and dirt there. Look for any clean spots they are cause by leaks there should not be any oil that you can see there. Shake the rear wheels side ways to see if the axle are tight and check there for any signs of a leak right behind the wheels. With live power the clutch should stop the tractor half way down with the PTO still turning. Then the PTO should stop when you push the clutch all the way down. With the independent Pto it is best to get the transmission oil close to operating temperature. With something hooked to the PTO engage the PTO. It should start to turn immediately. If it hesitates that is a good sign the clutches or the seals are bad. I hope this helps you find any problems before you by the tractor. Pull the hydraulic dipstick if the oil is white or light gray this means the oil has water in it. Check the normal things like any coolant leaks or any major oil leaks & be sure to check the oil & coolant levels. if the brake have a good pedal but still not stop the tractor except to spend any where from $200 to $600 to get brakes If you are going to do the work. You can probably add another $400 to 600 if you have it done at a shop. This is how I would check one if I were buying it.
This info is from Big Deans web site. I would also warm the engine up, then pull the dip stick out with the motor still running. Goodluck, Alvin

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Scott in SC

12-12-2003 03:54:46




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Massey 35 Deluxe (value) in reply to Alvin n Ms., 12-11-2003 19:44:02  
Thanks again for the info. Will let you know how things turn out. Scott



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