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Clutch problem on MF 1130

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Scott

10-19-2003 17:36:49




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I parked my tractor after using it trouble free and went to use it the next day and the clutch would not work. (will not disengage) Never experienced any problems w/clutch at all. Adjustment seems to be perfect and pedal effort is as normal as ever. I can hear a change in normal "gear noise" in the trans when peddle is depressed/released etc., however it will not disengage the transmission at all. I even put it in gear, started the engine, pushed in clutch and pushed on brakes enough to stall engine, and it would not release. I own and repair/service heavy equipment, so I'm not a mechanical dummy, but I'm not very familiar with MF tractors. I know this tractor has a lot of hydraulics that control almost everything in one way or another. PTO clutch is working fine. My tractor does have Multi-Power that seems to be working correctly. I did change some hydraulic lines (to the rear aux. hyd remotes) and hook up and operate (only a "test run") a log splitter prior to this happening, is there anything that I may have done by accident in the hyd. system that might cause this clutch prob? This is the only thing that changed from this time I parked it to the time I started it the next day. If I don't hear of any possible causes I'll have to split the tractor and check the clutch/throw out bearing/fork for problems, even though everything looks, "feels" and sounds as normal as it ever was. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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Read

10-22-2003 13:03:41




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 Re: Clutch problem on MF 1130 in reply to Scott, 10-19-2003 17:36:49  
We farmed with a '68 1100 in the 70s that did the same thing. Had to start it in gear to all through spring work. No amount of abuse would break it loose, but it finally let go by itself. We split it later (we were an MF dealer) but could find nothing whatever wrong. Never happened again, either.



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Scott

10-23-2003 17:44:04




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 Re: Re: Clutch problem on MF 1130 in reply to Read, 10-22-2003 13:03:41  
Thanks for your comments... Guess I'll keep my fingers crossed for a while and hope it lets go. I can't believe it's rusted because it hasn't sat, so I may be looking at the same situation you had. If not I'll bring 'er in the shop this winter when I get the time.



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Charlie

10-20-2003 05:54:06




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 Re: Clutch problem on MF 1130 in reply to Scott, 10-19-2003 17:36:49  
Get under tractor and look to see if there is an inspection plate under clutch area. If so take cover off and get someone to work clutch while you watch from below of tractor. The clutch carrier assy could be binding on shaft.
Also check the shaft that comes out of bottom of steering pestal. This shaft has two bearing on each end of shaft. If the bearing are bad it will cause a lot of slope in linkage. Email me at [email protected] I might have some pictures.

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Scott

10-20-2003 09:45:34




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 Re: Re: Clutch problem on MF 1130 in reply to Charlie, 10-20-2003 05:54:06  
Thanks for the suggestions. I've already checked for an inspection cover and have only found a very small one w/ a rubber plug on the forward face of the clutch housing. I could not see much through this hole. I don't believe your second suggestion will be the problem, everything is pretty tight on the tractor, including the clutch pedal/linkage. (It only has 4800 easy hrs. on it) It is more likely to be your first suggestion of the carrier assy. binding. Thanks again. I'll post any results.

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Rob

10-20-2003 20:15:42




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 Re: Re: Re: Clutch problem on MF 1130 in reply to Scott, 10-20-2003 09:45:34  
Better look again for an inspection cover again!! The cover is on the bottom front of the transmission housing. Should have four 5/8 bolts to remove. It is directly in front of the front transmission drain plug. Might have a grease line for throwout bearing and or a cotter pin sticking out the bottom. Splines on clutch plate could be rusty and not letting plates float. Early models had single clutch, later models had dual clutch with a spacer plate.

Good luck

Rob

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Scott

10-21-2003 04:01:53




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Clutch problem on MF 1130 in reply to Rob, 10-20-2003 20:15:42  
Thanks Rob, I'll look closer. I know there was no grease line under there, but I did see the bolts you speak of, but I only looked quick and was looking for a lighter "tin" looking plate with small 1/4" size bolts. Shoulda' known better than that... it's a Massey!!! Big and HEAVY. Used to working on big trucks where everything not structural is light to keep weight down. Not sure why the splines would rust up over night, but stranger things have happened to me. Thanks again.

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Don

10-31-2003 11:04:59




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Clutch problem on MF 1130 in reply to Scott, 10-21-2003 04:01:53  
First of all I�d like everyone to know that I have never worked on a tractor clutch but I have worked on cars most of my life. During the fifties we had a similar problem with the clutches used in automobiles. Clutches made during that time had two asbestos discs which were riveted to the center hub. The asbestos discs were completely smooth. What we found out to be causing the clutch to �stick/not release� was that the clutch disc actually �glued� itself to the flywheel. This could happen overnight or after the vehicle had not been used for several weeks or months. To correct this problem we drilled small holes in the rivets that held the two discs to the center hub. Once we done that, then the drilled holes would release the suction pressure that had built up when the flywheel and pressure plate cooled down. Eventually companies that produced new clutch discs eliminated that problem by �machining� diagonal slots on both sides of the clutch surface, both on the riveted discs and on the �glued� discs.

Way back then I was into drag racing and we had this same problem with the clutches not releasing fast enough when shifting gears, but by using the method I explained about we were able to correct even that problem.

I�m sure some of you �Old timers� remember this �fixing a hung-up/sticking clutch method�.

Don

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