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Continental F162 applications.

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MH444LP

09-06-2003 22:01:48




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I am looking for a Continental 162 as used in the Massey 30. What model combines were they used in? Other applications?
thanks for the info




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Alberta Mike

09-07-2003 06:22:24




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 Re: Continental F162 applications. in reply to MH444LP, 09-06-2003 22:01:48  
I'm not sure about MH combines but remember that the same engine also showed up in a 140 and 124 cubic inch version, just different cylinder bores, everything else bolts up the same. So you have a lot of ag applications (MH and others) like the MH 101/102 Juniors, 81/82/20/22, Case V, Oliver 44, MH swathers and a lot of orphan tractors too. Then Lincoln welders used them well into the 70's I believe, also street sweepers and other stuff. You might not find a 162 but the others will bolt right in. I have a 140 here (from a MH swather from the early 60's) that I am transplanting into my 1941 Case V which originally had the 124 version. Continental Engines is now called "Wis-Con" I believe which was a merger between Continental and Wisconsin. I do have some engine parts here for those engines, email me at my name link above if you wish (I have removed the hide from my email address).

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Bob Doiron

11-13-2003 04:50:50




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 Re: Re: Continental F162 applications. in reply to Alberta Mike, 09-07-2003 06:22:24  
Hey guys,
I am also loking for a Continental F162 engine and or parts to repair mine. It is in a 59 Cockshutt 540.
Does anyone know of a source for parts for these engines?
At the least I need a new crank (#F400C50) with a new pully, Block (#F400A421), Cam (#F1401400) with a new gear.
Idealy a running engine would also work.
Thanks for any help, Bob



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Greg Hubartt

03-10-2005 14:04:35




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 Re: Re: Re: Continental F162 applications. in reply to Bob Doiron, 11-13-2003 04:50:50  
Hum i seem to have a 124 i beleive and have been told the ony diference in this and a 162 or any of the others is the bore size.I have a basicly complete engine that did run and is minsus the distributor and starter.Ima thinkin that it looks to be outta a fork lift cause of the front cover.All i can say is it was supposed to run and i want 350 bucks firm for it as ive found that these parts are very high priced as i just soaked 1428.00 bucks in the one i do have for my massye 30rc.Send me an email if your interested as it is forsale .----Thanks Greg

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off the land

09-07-2003 13:31:07




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 Re: Re: Continental F162 applications. in reply to Alberta Mike, 09-07-2003 06:22:24  
Combines appear to favor the F140 version. The MH
Clippers(SP) from the 40's into early 50's used the 124 or 140. Better match might be the MHF 35
SP combine('57-65), which had some updates on the
140, running 12V & hydraulic. A brief Super 35 was
offered for a couple years, engine unchanged. The
SP35 performed poorly, as it was underpowered,
running an 8' header. The replacement 205 improved
on some problems, but the combine market erroded to all competitors. The Oliver 44 tractor used a 62 C.I. Continental, MH Pony-size tractor, not a
162. Good luck.

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Alberta Mike

09-07-2003 20:22:26




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 Re: Re: Re: Continental F162 applications. in reply to off the land, 09-07-2003 13:31:07  
Hello M.Y. Never would even consider doubting your posts but this time I gotta do it. The Oliver 44 had the regular 4 cylinder flathead in it that most other stuff had (actually it is called the F400 block series) and the one in the Oliver 44 was the 140 cubic inch version. I'm looking at photos in an Oliver book here as well as a couple of my own photos from tractor shows. No doubt it's the engine I'm talking about. Did you check out the 555 noted on the post above?

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off the land

09-08-2003 11:37:25




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Continental F162 applications. in reply to Alberta Mike, 09-07-2003 20:22:26  
Mike,
You know the '47 & up Ponys, with 8x24 rears, 62
C.I.Continental flathead. These engines were in N & L versions. The smallest Oliver, #44, was the
same size tractor, with a stock 62 C.I. Continental. For a year, in the earliest 60's, it was replaced by the 440, but basically the same.
Perhaps a puller would attempt a repower of the 12
HP '62' with a 140 or 162, but stock engine, in
the Oliver 44 was a Continental 62. Kindly post
on the 'correct green' board, if doubt lingers.
Imagine a Pony with a '162' bolted-in, balance the
1400 lb. tractor with this 34 HP engine, snap the
frame housing in it's serious test pull attempt.
Mislabeled photos & print typos add confusion to
the facts. Were I asked when 'Twin Power' ended on
the 101, I'd reply that I did not know, this was
not my choice MH model.Oliver built great tractors
in the 60's,1800's,1650's,1850's,etc. These models
had bonds with MH 44 versions: work brutes. They
became the durable choice, thus knowledge of their
tractors, firsthand. How many snow shovels are by
the front door?

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Alberta Mike

09-08-2003 14:02:49




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Continental F162 applications. in reply to off the land, 09-08-2003 11:37:25  
How about the Super 44 Oliver? On closer inspection of this Oliver book here, it is the SUper 44 and the engine is definitely the 140 cubic inch version, same as in my Masseys and Case (maybe a different displacement but the F400 block). It's the only reference I have here for any Oliver 44 of any version. Hmmm, must do some more checking out on this one.



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off the land

09-08-2003 15:54:21




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Continental F162 applicati in reply to Alberta Mike, 09-08-2003 14:02:49  
Yes, Mike, checking it is. Those 12 HP 62's were
not as lively as advertised. MH jumped to the hot
selling PACER, which was 'a little more' than a repowered Pony.Last Pacer on e bay, I noticed was
$4995.00! Those SUPER series Olivers did lap in
the later 50's,most common:Super 77,Super 88. This
SUPER 44 may have slipped by with something, but I
had mentioned the Oliver 44 having the 62 C.I. I
don't recall the SUPER 44. SUPER 55 was the low
profile, similar to the 550(38HP). The 140 block
would be 22/Mustang category. I did not post that
in rebuttle, but was addressing the combine use
of flatheads, as a source for the MH 30. Added
that statement, since the Guy might chase down a
44 Oliver,finding a 12 HP engine for his 30. No
cutting here, just attempts on fact.

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Alberta Mike

09-08-2003 17:31:07




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Continental F162 appli in reply to off the land, 09-08-2003 15:54:21  
I posted a question over on the Oliver board, hopefully someone over there will know exactly what was what in that Oliver lineup. An interesting comment in this book here was that it appeared as if they forgot to include the steering system in the original design of the 44 Super Utility. It hangs out on the right side, way out .... and also they had to chop part of the lower right grille out to get it to fit. Then, the tie rods hung way out front almost like a bumper. Bad setup if I was driving.

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