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Massey 35 vs 135 ?

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Jeff

09-03-2003 17:26:29

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Can somebody tell me the difference (besides the number), between a 35 and 135 MF.
I'm assuming that the 135 is a newer model but not sure.
I'm looking to buy a used utility tractor and have looked at several of both MF models along with some Ford 600s, 601s 800's etc.
I'm leaning more toward MF. Any opinions ?
About the best deal I've found around here so far was a MF 35 gas, recent engine overhaul by dealer (started quick, purred like a kitten) Power Steering, 2 stage, New tires and Wheels. It don't look like new by any means(paint is faded etc.) but it doesn't look abused.
5,000.00
Is that a fair price ? Any info or input apreciated.
Jeff

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chris mf135

09-04-2003 17:26:21

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Re: Massey 35 vs 135 ? in reply to Jeff, 09-03-2003 17:26:29

had a 1962 mf35 gas for four years, burns less than 2 gal an hour in hard work, thought there could be no better tractor. in may i came accross a 1966 mf135(uk) diesel at a can't pass by price of 2700,picture in tractor photo section, it burns about 2 QUARTS an hour doing the same work.
neather had ps but at that price who can complain. sold gass one for 3000 needed tires.diesel boggs down 50 rpm where gas bogs 500rpm. average prices in upper east tennessee is 28-3800 for gas 45-6000 for diesel.

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Jeff (although a differen

09-04-2003 14:02:34

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Re: Massey 35 vs 135 ? in reply to Jeff, 09-03-2003 17:26:29

Jeff, (happens to be the name I post under here as well). I don't know much about tractors, but I did recently purchase a 1961 MF35. It had been completely rebuilt, new linings and pistons, all internals relaced or turned, new battery, wiring, pto parts replaced, new tires and wheels, new grill, completely painted, etc. I paid $4,500. It is a bit more than I wanted to pay, but the dealer I bought from has a sterling reputation and showed me receipts for everything, and he is close to our place, so if I ever need help he's close by. He restores tractors and works on them for a living, and really favors the Massey's.

I don't think I could have bought another tractor and brought it up to the mechanical and physical condition of this one for less money. In fact I think it would have cost me more. I wasn't looking for a pretty tractor, but I have to tell you I spend a fair amount of time just looking at and admiring this one, so I'm not sorry at all.

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Oldfarmboy Jim

09-04-2003 12:59:54

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Re: Massey 35 vs 135 ? in reply to Jeff, 09-03-2003 17:26:29

JEFF, The price is fair, but it's also fairly high. I would recommend looking around a little more. If you know what to look for in a car: compression, clutch, brakes, color of exhaust etc. and how to check those things, then you probably won't go wrong and you should get the kind of tractor you are looking for at around $2500-$3000. The Masseys are fine tractors, and so are the Fords. I have a MF35 and a Ford 841. The Ford has more guts and a little more weight, but the Massey does it's work without straining too. I would also make any sale from an individual contingent on a satisfactory pre-purchase inspection by a tractor mechanic or dealership. If you read these forums much, you'll see that too many purchases are made on emotion, ignorance of the facts and "wanting it right now." A little patience and common sense will save you many hundreds of dollars in your tractor purchase. Good luck looking at all those neat old tractors, Jim

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Peter

09-04-2003 12:31:28

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Re: Massey 35 vs 135 ? in reply to Jeff, 09-03-2003 17:26:29

After looking at about 20 used tractors - I bot a used 135 with rebuilt motor and new tires - I don't regret buying it for a minute

who did the rebuild, what they actually did and what kind of parts they used makes a big difference - price is on the high side unless they throw in some decent implements and the rebuild was done with good parts by somebody who cared

seems that orig 135 had continental 4 cyl and later 135 used the 3 cyl perkins 152 diesel/gas - I have the gas version and it does what I ask it to but I try to be polite

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Indydirtfarmer

09-04-2003 03:51:09

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Re: Massey 35 vs 135 ? in reply to Jeff, 09-03-2003 17:26:29

There's a couple of ways to look at it. The price is a bit higher than average, but.... If you went out and bought a fair to average tractor, and did what has been done to this one, you might end up with more than that invested. IF this dealer is reputable, and can show proof of what was done, you will get a tractor that you should be able to depend on. I buy and sell used tractors, maybe 8 or 10 a year. One of the things that I have noticed, the "newer" tractor owner is much better off, if he can have a year or two of uninterupted use, to learn how things work before getting into that first re-building project. (!st time tractor owners are much better off with a GOOD dependable tractor---just like everyone else) You be the judge. The lowest price isn't always the bargain. Sounds like a nice tractor to me. The MF35,50,135,150 series of tractors are the best small tractors EVER made, by ANYONE. Find a good one, and you have a tractor that will outlast you.

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Joe Evans

09-04-2003 11:43:06

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Re: Re: Massey 35 vs 135 ? in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 09-04-2003 03:51:09

MF35,50,135, and 150 the best small tractors ever made by anyone?? You are SOOO right.

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Old Cane

09-03-2003 20:40:32

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Re: Massey 35 vs 135 ? in reply to Jeff, 09-03-2003 17:26:29

I'd say that's about $1000-1500 higher than in my neck of the woods for a 35. I'm with C.T. on what I paid. Then again, tires add a lot to the price if you need to replace them soon but not that much. I'd stay with the tractor but really work a deal with the dealer, like $4000 with a bush hog and a less expensive implement too if you can get it. Ask around, is the dealer reputable? lots of sarcastic remarks when you ask someone about him? People love him? A good guy to deal with is worth a lot down the road.

And they aren't getting any cheaper. If $4000 is the best you can do, and you trust him, and you need it, break down the cost over X years and see if $3500 and $4500 are that far apart. 10 years, a $100 a year differnce, 30 years-$33 a year difference and so on.

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C. T. in Oklahoma

09-04-2003 18:50:33

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Re: Re: Massey 35 vs 135 ? in reply to Old Cane, 09-03-2003 20:40:32

Old Cane, good point about the tires. I forgot about that basic item. Mine had three excellent ones (two rear and one front) and I replaced the dry-rotted front one last year. I don't know what the rears cost, but based on comments on this site, they are pricey. C. T.

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Old Cane

09-05-2003 04:30:44

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Re: Re: Re: Massey 35 vs 135 ? in reply to C. T. in Oklahoma, 09-04-2003 18:50:33

They are $165 at our Co-op plus $30 to put mount. Not sure if that's per pair, per tire or per tractor but I'm getting ready to find out. I need to replace the fronts on mine. I show them to be $47 each.

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C. T. in Oklahoma

09-03-2003 18:03:05

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Re: Massey 35 vs 135 ? in reply to Jeff, 09-03-2003 17:26:29

Jeff, In Oklahoma I paid $3,700 two years ago for my 1964 FE35, with a Perkins diesel, brush hog, and box blade. It is in pretty good shape and you can view my tractor by going to the tractor photos under "Galleries" on the left side of the page on this site. Search for "1964 Massey Ferguson" and you will find it. The 135 is the newer model, and 1964 is the last year the 35 was manufactured. C. T.

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C. T. in Oklahoma

09-03-2003 18:16:58

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Re: Re: Massey 35 vs 135 ? in reply to C. T. in Oklahoma, 09-03-2003 18:03:05

Jeff, I should mention, if you go to the tractor registry on the left side of this site, there are 35's listed several different ways. FE35, FE 35, MF 35 Deluxe, 35 Deluxe and several other variations. If you click on one of the selections, then click on an individual serial number, you will see price paid. Some folks didn't fill it in but, you should be able to get an idea of average price. C. T.

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Thanks Everyone !

09-04-2003 17:50:06

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Re: Re: Re: Massey 35 vs 135 ? in reply to C. T. in Oklahoma, 09-03-2003 18:16:58

Thanks a bunch for all your replies and info. It has given me alot of useful information and things to ponder on.
Sounds like the MF's are a really good tractor. All I have to do now is decide "exactly" how much tractor I need, "exactly" how much I want to spend and then find the best deal for the money.
I don't really do any farming per'se. Just want something to keep the brush down on about 5 acres during the summer for the most part and then plow some snow from my driveway ocasionally in the winter etc...
I'm not certain, but I doubt that the hours of actual operation each year would exceed 15 or 20 hrs ?
So, for that reason, I don't want to spend a fortune, but it's easy to get caught up in it all when out looking at them, and seeing all that "shiny paint" and then "those pretty front loaders" etc. hehee, and the prices just keep going up and up. Oh well, I grew up with an old 1950 Case VA (my dad's) that usually didn't have any brakes, very weak hydraulics, and very few other creature comforts. so "whatever" I end up getting should make me very happy !

Thanks again and I'll let ya'all know when I find something.

Jeff

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