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MF35 needs help, where to start?

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CityBoy

08-19-2003 17:07:27

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I have come into a gasoline MF35 as part of a rural property purchase. Starts and runs okay, 3 pt and drive clutch work okay, brakes marginal, no dripping fluids, doesn't seem to burn any oil. Alternator is shot, none of the guages work, radiator cap seals are shot, and the PTO clutch doesn't always fully disengage the PTO, especially when cold. It's like the clutch plates are maintaining a slight amount of contact even when pedal is fully depressed. I'm hoping only an adjustment is needed.

Never had a tractor before and have never used one until this one ... a complete novice. I have manuals on order. In the meantime I need some suggestions on what I ought to be fixing first and thoughts on what guages I really need, the kind of stuff that experienced people know.

Thanks, and please be gentle.

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brandon scott

08-21-2003 11:49:27

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Re: MF35 needs help, where to start? in reply to CityBoy, 08-19-2003 17:07:27

ive also got a M.F 35..../ ABOUT 1963- 65... IM A CERTIFIED MECHANIC..... send me your list of problems and i can help you out.... also got manuals on them also..... well let me know if i can help..... it may take a day or so but i will respond.....

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CityBoy

08-20-2003 20:12:56

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Re: MF35 needs help, where to start? in reply to CityBoy, 08-19-2003 17:07:27

Thanks everyone. Guages are relatively cheap as compared to a burnt or seized engine. I'll replace at least oil and temp. The alternator is a 3 wire Delco; I'll probably replace with same or maybe even go the one wire route ... whatever is cheaper. Some of the wiring is original braided insulation wire; may replace that as well since it's in sad shape.

Radiator cap seems awful loose but so far no steam or boil over, and it's already been worked fairly hard several times in 90's temperature pulling a brush hog in THICK growth. It may be okay despite seeming loose. On the other hand radiator caps are cheap.

So far the MF35 is the best part of my rural property purchase.

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Bill

08-20-2003 18:08:47

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Re: MF35 needs help, where to start? in reply to CityBoy, 08-19-2003 17:07:27

You have a great little tractor. We'd all wish I think to have had one come with our property! All of the things you have mentioned can be fixed and the PTO clutch, as I understand it, can be adjusted too.

I have an old MF50 diesel and between a lot of reading here (and in your case at the Harry Ferguson section of this web page), lots of GREAT help from Big Dean and his CD, the MF parts, service and owners manuals I purchased and the IT manual, I have not encountered anything (knock on wood) I haven't been able to fix.

Good luck,
Bill

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Rotten Robert

08-20-2003 18:50:41

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Re: Re: MF35 needs help, where to start? in reply to Bill, 08-20-2003 18:08:47

The MF-35 is a great little tractor. Fix the radiator cap and check for cooling system integtity ie. no leaks and good circulation are a must as this is the killer of a lot of engines. You can verify oil pressure be screwing a manual guage into an oil port on the block, 20psi will run: 30psi is great. A good automotive electric can talk you through a conversiopn to a 1 wire Delco type alternator. This works great on my 9N 12v conversion. Have fun with that tractor.

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James in MO

08-20-2003 11:33:12

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Re: MF35 needs help, where to start? in reply to CityBoy, 08-19-2003 17:07:27

Fix the radiater cap first!!!!! A cap is essential it also essential that you have the right amnout of psi cap I can tell you that a MF-65 takes a 10-12 pound cap. Water boils at 212 degrees your tractor will acheive that easily working on a hot day and it will boil and spit all of it's water out by having the right amount of pressure in your water jacket it increases your boiling point to 230-240. then fix ALL of your guages and your alternator is it an alternator? or a generator? or a 12 volt generator if you look under serial numbers on this site you can figure out what the yearand which motor it is. Now for your clutch MF has a two stage PTO if you push the lever down it will run off the transmission as you are moving I don't know why they put this on f you pull it up it will run off the pto shaft and clutch if you pulled it up you just might need an adjustment like you said but since they are keeping contact I would say you need a clutch don't worry that is not htat hard either but there are some special precautions on a two stage clutch which having learned that 250 dollar lesson after breakjing a pressure plate I would be happy to share with you

Let me know if I can be of assistance also there is a man that responds to post on here by the name of Big Dean Here is his web site>Link

he>Link was a Massey mechanic for a long time nad he is very helpful.

James

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David UK

08-20-2003 19:20:51

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Re: Re: MF35 needs help, where to start? in reply to James in MO, 08-20-2003 11:33:12

Maybe in the US caps are essential - I don't know - but they certainly aren't too critical in the UK maybe because we don't get very high temperatures. I've run with caps off or loose several times on cars and tractors usually because I had a radiator leak and having it depressurised stops it forcing water out. So far I haven't had a problem with heating up. In fact we have been using a a loading shovel that way from January to June this year as we needed the machine every day and didn't want to put it out of action to fix it - not ideal but it got us through the winter. Also my FE35 sprung a fairly major radiator leak while being used for ploughing last month and ran for two days unpressurised with no problem. It wasn't under heavy load though and that would surely make a difference.

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David UK

08-20-2003 04:59:38

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Re: MF35 needs help, where to start? in reply to CityBoy, 08-19-2003 17:07:27

If it works you don't need anything really. Radiator cap is not essential. Oil pressure gauge is important to let you know if the engine has sufficient oil pressure and is therefore not going to destroy itself. If it runs for 5 minutes without seizing up, it has at least got some pressure and you might therefore take the view that the gauge isn't essential. However I'd fix it soon and certainly before working the tractor hard as if its very low you could do damage engine if you let it labour under load. All it will tell you is ho wmuch pressure there is but if its very poor you' dhave to rebuild engine internally to some extent to improve the problem.

Clutch my improve by using it, but failing that I'd try adjusting as manual says. Oil leaks at back of engine can cause clutch to drag a bit but fixing it involves splittng tractor.

Alternator is fairly important as otherwise you will need to keep charging the battery. Being petrol it needs electricity to run. (unlike diesel) I'd fix it that and the oil pressure gauge first.

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