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Exhaust Relief valve

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Ron

08-06-2003 06:26:15




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OK Massey guys and anyone else that may have an idea. I picked up a 333 the other day and the exhaust manifold had had an attachment that had been threaded into it above the carb in the exhaust part, that looked like a bugle.I believe that it has a check valve in it but I have not been able to get it apart yet.The guys at our tractor show are trying to figure it out. No lables on it.I'm sure that it was not strictly Massey.Appears to be an aftermarket item.Any Ideas????

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Ron

08-08-2003 05:36:16




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 Re: Exhaust Relief valve in reply to Ron, 08-06-2003 06:26:15  
After further investigation, I've discovered that it has a one way diafram in the bell end farthest from the manifold and it was in the exhaust side. The pipe plug is lower to the carb on the intake or vaccum side. This was deffenently in the exhaust.Help!!!



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Joe Ferguson

08-08-2003 09:39:37




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 Re: Re: Exhaust Relief valve in reply to Ron , 08-08-2003 05:36:16  
Hi Ron

I see only one possibility...
It may be an exhaust powered lift system remain.

I remember that some small Farmall & McCormick
tractors had exhaust powered lift system instead
of hydraulic lift.

If it is an exhaust powered lift the remains of
the system may still on the tractor such as
pipes to the rear or special lift cylinder.

HTH


Joe Freguson



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Ron

08-08-2003 11:21:15




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 Re: Re: Re: Exhaust Relief valve in reply to Joe Ferguson, 08-08-2003 09:39:37  
It looks like a little bugle with a cap over the outlet end and a 1/2" street elbow on the mouthpiece end that screwed into the manifold. Some think that it may help to stop backfiring.The mouthpiece end (under the cap) has a one way diaphram,(in).



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Joe Ferguson

08-08-2003 18:23:33




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Exhaust Relief valve in reply to Ron, 08-08-2003 11:21:15  
Hi Ron

I added the link to your photo here in order to be seen by others. I spent 50 years around all kinds
of tractor and machinery but can't figure what it is.

Here is the link to the picture
hope it works.

Link


Joe Ferguson



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Joe Ferguson (with pictur

08-08-2003 18:28:46




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Exhaust Relief valve in reply to Joe Ferguson, 08-08-2003 18:23:33  
third party image

Better to put the real picture here

Bye !



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Batman - no idea

08-11-2003 04:21:40




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Exhaust Relief valve in reply to Joe Ferguson (with pictur, 08-08-2003 18:28:46  
Thanks for posting the pic!

I take it all back - it isn't what I thought it was at all.

Stumped, clueless, ignorant, lost, dumbfounded.



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Batman

08-07-2003 08:12:56




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 Re: Exhaust Relief valve in reply to Ron, 08-06-2003 06:26:15  
The other gents who posted are both correct in what they say, reference the vacuum side of the manifold, and the use of milking machines - however, as your device has a bugle shaped thing on it, I am convinced it is a Hollywood Wolf Whistle type horn which was driven by the suction on the manifold - see if the link below works, or search for 'Hollywood Whistle' on eBay for examples.

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Joe Ferguson

08-07-2003 08:02:15




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 Re: Exhaust Relief valve in reply to Ron, 08-06-2003 06:26:15  
Hi Ron


This hole is a vacuum port used to put a vacuum
gauge for testing purposes. Some tractors with
cab many years ago (pre-1960) used vacuum operated winshield wipers (as the cars of this era)
And some farmers used that port to operate milking machines (my father did) during electric power failures.

If there is a valve it must be closed all the time
when using tractor, if there is a hole it must be plugged otherwise it will cause major vaccuum loss and engine malfunction.

Hope it helps....

Joe Ferguson

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marlowe

08-06-2003 20:05:48




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 Re: Exhaust Relief valve in reply to Ron, 08-06-2003 06:26:15  
if its just above the carb. then it on vacume side of the manifold not the exhaust side. years ago when the power went out we milked the cows with the vacume from the port



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Batman

08-06-2003 06:31:48




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 Re: Exhaust Relief valve in reply to Ron, 08-06-2003 06:26:15  
Sounds like it could be a 'Hollywood Whistle' check eBay for examples.



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