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f40 grinding gears

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Tad

08-04-2003 19:36:17




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I inherited a ferguson 40 with dual transmission. Its really hard to shift without grinding the gears. Anybody know what kind of synchro this tractor is supposed to have so that the gears are coordinated during shifting?




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Joe Ferguson (more info)

08-07-2003 08:34:15




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 Re: f40 grinding gears in reply to Tad, 08-04-2003 19:36:17  

If you want to shift gears 1-2 and 3 on the move
you will have to develop skills to do that:
considering tractor speed, engine revolution and
operator double cluth strokes (releasing clutch pedal when passing to neutral to synchronise gears speed to the tractor speed.) Experienced operators can shift 1-2-3 or downshift on the go without any grinding and looks like shifting a little car. A foot throttle facilitate
these operations.

Big truck drivers are familar with this type
of (non synchronized transmissions) if a non initiated person try to operate that type of transmission he or she will not be capable to
shift any gear on the go.


HTH

Joe Ferguson

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Tad

08-06-2003 17:29:32




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 Re: f40 grinding gears in reply to Tad, 08-04-2003 19:36:17  
Thanks for the comments. Each one of them is closer to understanding the problem.



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Joe Ferguson

08-05-2003 07:58:02




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 Re: f40 grinding gears in reply to Tad, 08-04-2003 19:36:17  
Hi Tad

When tractor is in gear and moving does it stops
when you press cluth.

You may have a cluth defect but just in case...

These tractors does'nt have synchromesh to stop
gears turning immediately when pushing the lever
in gear.

When you use the tractor let the shifter in gear wait that the tractor is totally stopped before moving the shifter to another gear espescially if you go forward to reverse and vice-versa.

If in neutral push the cluth 3 to 5 seconds
before putting in gear to let gears time to
stop.

If tractor has Multi-power always put it in
low range to shift the transmission
when tractor is not moving.


Good Luck


Joe Ferguson

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John in NY

08-05-2003 05:52:57




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 Re: f40 grinding gears in reply to Tad, 08-04-2003 19:36:17  
I have the same problem with my MF50. You can get instructions on how to adjust the clutch on Big Dean's page. I did this but still get more grinding than I like at a dead stop.



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MagicRat

08-04-2003 20:09:14




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 Re: f40 grinding gears in reply to Tad, 08-04-2003 19:36:17  
Tad,

I think that most tractors with standard trans have no synchros at all. Unlike a car, if you shift while moving, the gears will grind. This is normal. You can double clutch, if you are quick about it, or just depress the clutch when moving, shift into neutral, wait a couple of seconds for the main shaft in the transmission to slow down a bit and you can slide it into the next higher gear with a minimum of grinding. This really is only necessary in the road gears.

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Tad

08-05-2003 03:28:20




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 Re: Re: f40 grinding gears in reply to MagicRat, 08-04-2003 20:09:14  
Thanks for the response. The problem is that from a dead stop, every time I want to engage any gear selection, either forward or reverse, high or low range, it grinds like crazy. Doesn't seem that such a grating gear engagement would be engineered into the system. Maybe so. When working the tractor and needing to stop and change direction its a grinding experience. Maybe its a characteristic of the f40 and 50s. Would be interested to hear.

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Joe

08-07-2003 19:54:00




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 Re: Re: Re: f40 grinding gears in reply to Tad, 08-05-2003 03:28:20  
From a dead stop and with the engine at idle speed, grinding gears should not be a problem when trying to shift into gear. Shifting on the go is a different story and some practice is needed to do that smoothly.

Joe



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Bob

08-05-2003 16:44:59




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 Re: Re: Re: f40 grinding gears in reply to Tad, 08-05-2003 03:28:20  
This is normal for all Masseys with that type of tranny. With practice you will learn how to minimize the grinding.



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