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I'm not the brightest crayon in the box, but.....

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John Fugit

07-09-2003 11:25:45




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My dad used to tell me that a fairly smart person would learn from their mistakes, but a REAL smart person will learn from someone elses mistakes. Here is your chance to learn from mine. (If you already know this one, you're ahead of the game) I spent the past few days, running around, trying to get my generator rebuilt, on my 1957 Massey-Ferguson 50. I tried all the "test's" that I could. It just seemed to be NOT WORKING. I got it to an auto electric shop, and got called back in about 1/2 a day. They said it was better than most of the ones he rebuilt, and didn't need anything. Hmmmm. The next logical thing would be the voltage regulator, but it tested OK. I bought one anyway. $28.00 just to eliminate that possibility. No luck. Well, I traced all the wiring, and replaced a couple, just to see if that was the culprit. Still no luck. For the past 20 years, the ampmeter hasn't worked, but the tractor still charged fine, so who would suspect it? I should have. Even though it wasn't working, it still carried current, untill recently. It apparently burnt out, what the auto electric shop owner called the shunt. It was like cutting a wire in the charging system. No voltage.... A trip to the NAPA auto parts store, and a $7.50 amp meter later, things are alive and well. The tractor runs better than it did, becouse the ignition is getting the correct voltage for the first time in a while. I might look like a dummy to some people, but at least I feel a little smarter now.

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Tom G (OK)

07-13-2003 14:54:34




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 Re: I'm not the brightest crayon in the box, but.. in reply to John Fugit, 07-09-2003 11:25:45  

I've been having a similar problem with my MF 2135 ever since I bought it three years ago. I had the generator rebuilt (it definitely needed it) but still the battery wouldn't charge properly. I've been hemming and hawing about the regulator for a while since then, but it never occurred to me that the disfunctional (it always shows even current) ammeter might be the culprit. I'm off to the parts store!
Thanks, John. Your reflected brightness is brightening us all!

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Randy

07-11-2003 00:54:56




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 Re: I'm not the brightest crayon in the box, but.. in reply to John Fugit, 07-09-2003 11:25:45  
Folks: My ammeter did't work so I replaced it with a voltmeter. They aren't expensive and can be bought at most auto parts places. I got mine at Walmart. Just join together the 2 wires that went to the ammeter, and give the voltmeter a 12 volt supply controlled from the ignition switch, and a ground connection, and your done. I take note of the voltage when I turn on the ignition, and then after the engine starts. If it reads higher when the engine runs (14-15 volts), you're charging.

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Garry

07-11-2003 07:41:01




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 Re: Re: I'm not the brightest crayon in the box, b in reply to Randy, 07-11-2003 00:54:56  
So that was my problem with the volt meter I purchased. I hooked it up like the amp meter and it didn't work. I threw it in the cabinet and went back to an amp meter. I guess I should have wired it as mentioned by Randy. I guess I'm not the brighest crayon in the box either.



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Guy

07-09-2003 21:16:03




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 Re: I'm not the brightest crayon in the box, but.. in reply to John Fugit, 07-09-2003 11:25:45  
John,

I know this is off topic, but have you wondered what that shunt does?
It provides a partial bypass for current around the circuit for the ammeter needle. The shunt must have some electrical resistance so some current (but not too much) goes through the needles circuit. Varying this resistance is one way to calibrate the needles accuracy.

Anyway, if the shunt has no electrical resistance the needle wont move but your electrical system still charges. I've had this problem with every Ford car and truck (not tractor!) I've had from the 1960's to the 80's. Its like Ford ammeters are just dashboard decoration!

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Norm35

07-09-2003 20:30:09




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 Re: I'm not the brightest crayon in the box, but.. in reply to John Fugit, 07-09-2003 11:25:45  
If you ask me you're a bit hard on yourself. This was not evident from the start especially in light of the amp meter being in that state. In a few words perseverence paid off.

Good Luck

Norm in Ont.



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