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Massey Harris 44 Special V8 engine fit

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Stan

05-18-2003 17:09:21




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I have a 44 special with a bad engine. Curious to know if anyone has ever put a v8 in one and if so what model did you use. Ford,Chevy, etc?




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Deanker

11-14-2005 16:51:29




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 Re: Massey Harris 44 Special V8 engine fit in reply to Stan, 05-18-2003 17:09:21  
I put a Ford 351 Windsor in my Massey 44 with a wide front. I first restored it original and it was quite expensive even doing all the labor myself. I wanted to pull in the modified V8 class so I pulled it out and put in a Ford V8. I had to have the flywheel re-drilled to accept the Massey pressure plate and clutch. We also had to grind some of the frame away to make room for the starter (can use a compact starter and not have to cut much) and make some motor mounts. It only took a couple of days. I plan on putting a 427 stroker in it next year and we have another one with a 460 Ford in it. Not hard to do and very cheap to do if you are handy.

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Dave Shaw

09-10-2006 10:32:18




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 Re: Massey Harris 44 Special V8 engine fit in reply to Deanker, 11-14-2005 16:51:29  
I have a 1940 Massey Harris 101 Sr. that I installed a 350 GM engine and Powerglide 2 speed automatic transmission. I shortened the output shaft and removed the governor so the no longer is an tail extension on the transmission. I fitted a spocket on the output shaft and coupled it to the original transmission input with a double roller chain (like originally done). I have power steering and hydraulics (from power steering pump).

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Guy R

05-20-2003 11:03:51




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 Re: Massey Harris 44 Special V8 engine fit in reply to Stan, 05-18-2003 17:09:21  
Stan,
Many MH owners envision a V8 swap at some point. If done properly, it will cost several times more than a repair on your existing tractor. The tractor will be difficult to re sell, and worth only a fraction of what you put into it.

If you must have one, consider selling your current tractor and buy one already done. It will be cheaper in the long run.

However, if you must do the installation, here are some tips:
1. Any automotive V8 will do, try starting with a small block Chevy, as its relatively compact, versatile and cheaper to buy and build than anything else.

2. You will need to use the clutch, clutch fork flywheel, pressure plate and bell housing designed for the engine. Avoid an engine that came with an automatic trans, as often they lack the pilot bushing in the rear of the crankshaft.

3. A machine shop would have to make some kind of splined adaptor so the tractor's trans input shaft will work with your clutch.

4. You would have to fabricate a clutch linkage. either a pushrod and bell crank affair or cable would do.

5. The engine would need custom made solid mounts front and rear at precicely the right location. Great care would be required to be sure the transmission shaft is perfectly centered relative to the flywheel.

The rest of the fabricating( exhaust, cooling, fuel electrical etc)is relatively straightforward, but still time consuming to fabricate or adapt the proper components.

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Val

05-20-2003 10:39:41




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 Re: Massey Harris 44 Special V8 engine fit in reply to Stan, 05-18-2003 17:09:21  
Stan,
I've seen 1 with a 350 chevy and 1 with an old DeSoto engine. I just completed mine with a 250 chevy 6 cyl. I like the 6 cyl. because it doesn't look as modified and still has more than enough power. Only problem I had was the chevy bell housing was a bit wide and the starter hit the frame. Removed small amount of cast from the frame and it works great. E-mail if you'd like more info.

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off the land

05-18-2003 17:29:48




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 Re: Massey Harris 44 Special V8 engine fit in reply to Stan, 05-18-2003 17:09:21  
Stan, It's your 44 Special, to turn into a mess.
Unless you had all the V8 parts in your shed, why
not O-H the 277 Continental? The outlay to go
wild with V8, will rival the 277 O-H cost. Block
or head for a Special, not very rare to procure.
Something always gets weird on these shadetree
designs. An original Special is a great tractor to
own, and operate. A 350 Chevy turns the classic
Massey-Harris into a virus. Save your Special, it
will never be the same, on Steroids & hacked up.

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don

05-18-2003 18:17:00




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 Re: Re: Massey Harris 44 Special V8 engine fit in reply to off the land, 05-18-2003 17:29:48  
Stan, I've seen them with bis and small block chevies, and 1 with a 390 ford. most look good, it's possable to build one and have it look good. cooling can be a problem, an electric fan should do the trick. good luck, one man's virus is another man's joy, Don



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