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KyShooter

05-12-2003 17:34:24




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I was planting my food plots last month when my MF35 started running poorly. It was misfiring and loosing power. I changed plugs and added new gas but it only got worse. By the end of the day it was all it could do to go up a small hill. The fuel bulb had about 1/4 inch of silty rust in it. I suspect the carburator needs cleaning but can anyone else think of anything I should check for? Thanks for any help anyone can give me.

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John in NY

05-15-2003 06:28:35




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 Re: MF 35 running bad in reply to KyShooter, 05-12-2003 17:34:24  
I went through this problem last summer with my MF50, same engine. If cleaning the sediment bowl and carb don't help, try removing the whole filter assembly from the fuel tank and cleaning inside the stove pipe filter. Mine was clogged with pine needles and other stuff. The fuel bowl would fill up fine but under load enough gas could not get past the pine needles to maintain power. If the unit is beyond repair it can be replaced for about $10.

Good Luck

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KyShooter

05-19-2003 12:21:26




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 Re: Re: MF 35 running bad in reply to John in NY, 05-15-2003 06:28:35  
Where is the stove pipe filter located?



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JEH (VA)

05-15-2003 02:13:09




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 Re: MF 35 running bad in reply to KyShooter, 05-12-2003 17:34:24  
KyShooter,

Only had a few minutes last night to work on the Carb., so I drained it and cleaned it as best possible while it was still intact on the tractor. Water had collected in the Carb. fuel bowl. After I "cleaned" the Carb. the tractor moved right on down the road, took on the big hill, hauled a grading blade, and was used to spread gravel. No problems, no power loss, no rough running. Cleaning the Carb. (even the short-cut way) might resolve your tractor problem.

JEH(VA)

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KyShooter

05-15-2003 04:11:07




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 Re: Re: MF 35 running bad in reply to JEH (VA), 05-15-2003 02:13:09  
Well your experiences are really encouraging me. I'm going to work on the tractor on Friday and Saturday, weather permitting. I will let you know if I have as much success as you did.

Thanks for the help and feed back.



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Gordon-(TN)

05-14-2003 01:26:05




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 Re: MF 35 running bad in reply to KyShooter, 05-12-2003 17:34:24  
I have one of these tractors I had the same problem with until I changed to propane, There is a filter made on the fitting that the gas line screws into that gets stopped up often when you start seeing that mess in the fuel bowl, some of the mess gets past the fuel bowl into the small filter in the carb.I changed mine over for $320.00 two tanks included, the gas tank was going to cost over $200.00 for gasoline,i've not had any trouble with it since the changeover. hope this helps
Gordon-(TN)

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JEH (VA)

05-13-2003 18:13:43




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 Re: MF 35 running bad in reply to KyShooter, 05-12-2003 17:34:24  
KyShooter,

You describe tractor symptoms almost identical to those my '55 TO-35 Deluxe (gas) started showing this weekend. Sunday, after two hours of mowing, the tractor would not pull a hill (steep). It moved right up the same hill in H2 the day before. Last month I replaced the battery, starter, coil, plug cables, condenser, Dist. cap and rotor; I don't think I have an electrical problem. In fact, the plugs are brand new Champion D21s. Silty rust also covered the bottom of the fuel bowl so I am looking twice at the fuel or Carb. One thing that has worked is adjusting the choke - simply pulling it out a very small amount. Have not had to do this previously. The choke adjustment may be a band-aid fix but until I replicate the rough running and fix the problem, the band-aid enables me to use the tractor. Perhaps you can do the same. Hope this helps.

JEH

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Guy R

05-13-2003 09:15:18




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 Re: MF 35 running bad in reply to KyShooter, 05-12-2003 17:34:24  
I would suggest start with the simple things first.
Drain the carb float bowl and remove, check for water or dirt in the bowl. Check to see that the float isn't stuck in the closed position and you get good fuel flow from the tank. Make sure the carb jets are clean.

If that doen't work, tune it up with new points and condensor.

Finally, sometimes the ignition coil can go bad and affect performance.

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KyShooter

05-13-2003 17:28:23




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 Re: Re: MF 35 running bad in reply to Guy R, 05-13-2003 09:15:18  
Thanks for the advice Guy R. Can I ask some stupid questions? First we have a glass bowl that is right outside the gas out line of the gas tank that then leads to the carb on the other side of the tractor, is that what you are talking about when you say carb float bowl? Do I have to take the carb off to see if the jets are clean? Thanks for all the tips I will follow your advice.



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Guy R.

05-13-2003 20:43:21




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 Re: Re: Re: MF 35 running bad in reply to KyShooter, 05-13-2003 17:28:23  
The only stupid questions are the ones that are not asked. That glass bowl underneath the gas tank is a combination dirt and water trap. The idea is dirt and water are heavier than gas and will settle into the bowl so they don't gum up the carb.

However, the glass does need removing and cleaing out every month or so. If it gets too full of water or dirt, then this debris will travel down the fuel line to the carburetor.

The carburetor float bowl is the rounded bottom half of the carburetor itself, on the side of the engine. This bowl holds fuel so it can be sucked up into the intake manifold air stream through the very small hole in the centre of the jet.

Water or dirt in the carb will displace the fuel and block the jets so the engine runs poorly or not at all,

Usually, this float bowl is held on by two screws, and can be removed and cleaned out with a clean rag, and a spray can of carburetor cleaner. If there is an accumulation of brown/green slimey- gummy-flakey stuff in the float bowl, then a bit of spraying the cleaner up into the rest of the carb can help.

Also, when you remove the bowl, you will expose the carburetor float ( a black or brass hollow thing that should move up and down about 1/4 inch freely). this increases or decreases the fuel allowed into the carburetor. If it get stuck, it will either starve the engine for fuel,(Stuck up) or flood it.(Stuck down)

I wouldn't suggest removing and disassembling the rest of the carb for cleaning unless you can get a service manual or diagram of the carb itself to serve as a guide.

If I can respectfully suggest, these tractor engines are quite simple and easy to fix, compared to todays cars. If you can find a basic high school textbook on auto mechanics (anything written in the last 50 years or so), you can probably get a better idea of the function and repair of these systems than I could give you.

Those books helped me, as I knew nothing when I started working on tractors, years ago.

Hope this helps

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KyShooter

05-19-2003 12:18:34




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: MF 35 running bad in reply to Guy R., 05-13-2003 20:43:21  
Well I worked on the tractor this weekend. First I disconnected the fuel line between the fuel bowl and the carburetor and it did not have any type of screens in it. Then I took off the carburetor and took it apart and cleaned it. It did not look dirty at all. I but everything back together and the tractor ran a little better but still sounded rough. I noticed that the little spring that holds the choke rod on the carburetor was broken so I loosened the bracket that holds the choke rod and pushed everything forward to see if that would make a difference. It was hard to say it may have made a little difference.

The other thing which I left out of my original email is after the tractor was running so badly we put STP in the fuel to see if that would help. When I did all this carburetor work we had about 1/3 tank left. I filled the tank up with new fuel on top of what was there and it also seem to run a little better but still didn�t sound great. I was not able to put a load on the tractor to see how it would run so it may be just a matter of running that last part of the STP out.

Any other suggestions?

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KyShooter

05-15-2003 04:13:06




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: MF 35 running bad in reply to Guy R., 05-13-2003 20:43:21  
Thanks for the extra detail, I will be working on the tractor this weekend and I will let you know what I find out.

Thanks for all the help.



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