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Garry

05-12-2003 11:56:05

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I recently purchased a Massey Harris 30 with 4 cylnder gas engine. I have not picked it up yet and the engine is stuck. I am not famaliar with the Massey Harris tractors, which is the reason I bought it. I have several of the Ferguson/MF tractors but never a MH. I was wandering if it is considered a good tractor. I did not pay much so won't lose much if it is not any good.

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Alberta Mike

05-12-2003 17:01:19

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Re: Massey Harris 30 opinion in reply to Garry, 05-12-2003 11:56:05

One great thing about the 30 is the fact that you can pull out the engine/clutch without splitting the tractor (like almost all those Masseys). Second, the engine is a Continental, probably a 140 or a 162 cubic inch version (same engines) which were used in a ton of agricultural and industrial applications (including Lincoln welders) so finding parts won't be a problem. Continental engines is now called Wis-Con I think but factory parts are pretty pricey but I imagine there's lots of aftermarket stuff available. Carburetor should be a Marvel Schebler.

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TGIN

05-13-2003 11:07:53

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Re: Re: Massey Harris 30 opinion in reply to Alberta Mike, 05-12-2003 17:01:19

What is the differance in the 162 and the 140 ??? I have a 22 with a 140 in need of a rebuild , whats it take to make it a 162 ???

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Alberta Mike

05-13-2003 15:42:56

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Re: Re: Re: Massey Harris 30 opinion in reply to TGIN, 05-13-2003 11:07:53

The difference is in the cylinder bore diameter. The 140 has a 3 3/16" bore and the 162 has a 3 7/16 bore, so the pistons and rings are bigger. That engine does not have removeable sleeves so I don't think you can move up with the 140 block. Both have the same stroke length, crank, etc.

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Guy R

05-13-2003 09:42:06

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Re: Re: Massey Harris 30 opinion in reply to Alberta Mike, 05-12-2003 17:01:19

I have a 1948 MH 30 'High Arch' ( the row crop variant of the 30). Some tune up parts and filters are still available theough MF dealers. But a great source for other Continental parts for these engines is a fork lift supply place. These engines were used in about a million fork lifts for decades after MH disappeared.

2 other things come to mind:
1. These tractors are great as open field workers. They are less manoverable than a typical MF of the same size, so they are not as handy for doing chores. But they are more effective at pulling really heavy loads with less wheel spin than my other MF trators. Generally, this is due to their design, in effectively transferring the pulling force into downward force on the drive wheels.
The MF tractors, as far as I know, are more dependent on the 3 point hitch for this transfer.

2. The transmission and running gear on MH tractors are really strong and durable. People have swapped in engines with far more power than your Continental engine with no problem. My buddy uesd to have a 30 with a big block Chevy for pulling, and never had a problem. He says he could do top-gear smokey burnouts on asphalt with it. ( I don't know if thats true, though)

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Larry

05-13-2003 15:35:16

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Re: Re: Re: Massey Harris 30 opinion in reply to Guy R, 05-13-2003 09:42:06

Hi Folks:

WHAT A COINCIDENCE,I'm just purchasing a 30 myself and also implements,it's my first time potato farming and I hope that the Massey will pull a 2 furrow plow and turn a 5' rotovater.The owner says it has a mechanical 3-point hitch, is he right? or pulling the wool over my eyes.

Help!

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Guy R

05-15-2003 20:13:09

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Massey Harris 30 opinion in reply to Larry, 05-13-2003 15:35:16

the 30 was rated for a 2 or 3 furrow plow when new, so I'm sure your impliments will be no problem. As for the mechanical 3 pt hitch, I've never used one, but it would allow use of a wider variety of impliments, especially newer ones.

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