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Hugh MacKay

01-26-2003 14:55:58




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When did Massey Harris enter the market with their first self propelled combine? What was the model number? How large was the machine and platform? Answers to these questions would be much appreciated. Thank you.




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Lindsey

10-05-2003 18:50:31




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 Re: Massey Harris Combines in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-26-2003 14:55:58  
As a volunteer for a museum, we were given asuper 27 combine and are in need of a operators manuel. If anyone knows where I may get one would you please let me know.
Thanks Lindsey



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Lindsey

10-05-2003 18:49:32




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 Re: Massey Harris Combines in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-26-2003 14:55:58  
As a volunteer for a museum, we were given asuper 27 combine and are in need of a operators manuel. If anyone knows where I may get one would you please let me know



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Wisc. Boy

02-01-2003 06:17:16




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 Re: Massey Harris Combines in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-26-2003 14:55:58  
As Mr. Dold said, the #20 was the first model. There is one at the Henry Ford museum near Detroit. They have a picture of it on their web-site. www.henryfordmuseum.com click collections, on-site exhibits, agriculture.



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Tom Dold

01-27-2003 08:59:31




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 Re: Massey Harris Combines in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-26-2003 14:55:58  
Hugh

THe first selfpropelled Massey was the model 20
about 1938. It was galvanized, it was followed by the 21 then the 21A.

Tom Dold
Dold implement Co.
Howard, SD 57349
605-772-4541



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Hugh MacKay

01-28-2003 17:30:10




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 Re: Re: Massey Harris Combines in reply to Tom Dold, 01-27-2003 08:59:31  
Tom: I shall address your post but intend this responce for Allan and Bruce as well. Information I learned some years ago led me to the conclusion that Massey was ahead by 4-5 years on anyone on self propelled combines. Oh I know there were self propelleds before that but not mass produced. Were those first Massey Harris self propelled combines produced in the US as oposed to Canada? One of you mentioned the restrictions on manufacture brought on by WW#2. When it came to combines I don't think those restrictions were as limiting as for tractors and some other farm equipment. The war effort needed grain, and threshing crews across Canada and later in the US were shipped off to war. The farmer was then left to harvest more grain with a fraction of the help. I think if you check the production numbers Massey Harris produced a lot more combines than competition would have one beleive. I would be interested in learning more on this.

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Allan C

01-28-2003 21:12:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Massey Harris Combines in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-28-2003 17:30:10  
I don't know about wartime production figures except that the Big Book of Massey Tractors has a page about the "harvest brigade " in 1944 and says that they had enough for 1300 combines and had to ask for permission to make 500 more than that for the harvest brigade. This is U.S. Canada production could have been extra.



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Hugh MacKay

01-29-2003 01:15:06




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Massey Harris Combines in reply to Allan C, 01-28-2003 21:12:50  
Allan: I don't think there were the same restrictions on farm equipment production in the US as in Canada. Canada, being part of the British Empire was directly involved in the war much sooner than the US. Both Massey and Cockshutt moved some production to the US. I am a bit curious on this one? I do suspect all those Combines for the harvest brigade were built in the US. Remember the brigage started the harvest in south and worked its way north into Canada.

Here in Canada if you go to a farm auction, of a farm that is 3 or more generations old. 80% of the time equipment from before the war will be Massey or Cockshutt. The equipment since war as likely as not will be Deere, IH, AC, Case, etc. The US based companies really made inroads in Canada during early part of war. I know my home farm was that way MH and Cockshutt before war, IH after.

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Allan C

01-26-2003 17:52:25




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 Re: Massey Harris Combines in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-26-2003 14:55:58  
I think the 21 came out in 1941. There was quite limited production due to wartime restrictions. I think that 12ft, 14 ft and 16ft tables were available. These had canvass tables. The 21A came out later with an auger table. We had a 14ft 21, canvass table. Probably about a 1948. A great machine for it's time. Put Massey on the combine map for a lot of years.



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Hugh MacKay

01-28-2003 17:32:06




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 Re: Re: Massey Harris Combines in reply to Allan C, 01-26-2003 17:52:25  
Allen: note my responce to Tom



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bruce colbourne

01-26-2003 16:48:25




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 Re: Massey Harris Combines in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-26-2003 14:55:58  
From the book I have on massey farm machinery it says the model 21 appeared in the early 1940s.The model 21 has a round hopper on it.In 1948 the list price was $3,494 dollars.



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Hugh MacKay

01-28-2003 17:33:48




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 Re: Re: Massey Harris Combines in reply to bruce colbourne, 01-26-2003 16:48:25  
Bruce: note my responce to Tom.



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