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Oil in coolant on 255 Massey

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Scot Fjeldsted

09-18-2002 13:26:36




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I have a 255 Massey diesel that started running warm. I noticed a small amount of coolant pushed out. The coolant looked like it has oil in it. There doesn't seem to be any coolant in the oil. Is the head gasket gone? Is there an easy way to verify this? Should I continue to run it since there is no coolant in the oil?




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Jerry (AL)

09-19-2002 10:21:12




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 Re: oil in coolant on 255 Massey in reply to Scot Fjeldsted, 09-18-2002 13:26:36  
I just went through an overheating problem with my MF255. I like you suspected all those bad things. I decided to start by pulling the radiator off and having it cleaned out. When I got it off, I found out that the previous owner had been blowing trash out with either a pressure washer or high pressure air and all the fins on the radiator were all laying down on the inside of the radiator. I too had a film on the coolant.I also had no coolant in the oil.

I ended up re-coring the radiator (around $150)and putting in a new thermostat for good measure while I was at it.

You have to pull the hood and all the way down to the tank mounting plate has to come off to get to the thermostat.

Result is now that, the thermostat opens at 175, runs most time less than 190 degrees and working the 6 foot bush hog in waist high thick hay got it up to 195 after a couple of hours.

With the compression on the diesels, it isn't all that hard to get a film on the coolant over time. You can have gas seepage through or around the head gasket to do that without blowing the gasket. I have experienced the same thing on my 8N also.

I too had no white smoke like you.

I hope you are as lucky as I was.

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Fieldman12

09-19-2002 00:41:52




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 Re: oil in coolant on 255 Massey in reply to Scot Fjeldsted, 09-18-2002 13:26:36  
It is most likely the head gasket. Start it up when cool and take the radiator cap of slowly, and look for bubbles in the radiator. You also might notice a power loss, and white smoke from the exhaust even after it has reached operating temperature.It sounds like your leak is not bad, so you might not get none if any white smoke. You can also go to your Auto Zone store if close by and get a Radiator Pressure tester gauge that goes in place of the radiator cap. This device will let you pump it up to the specs of the removed radiator cap. Let it set for the amount of time that is specified in the Radiator Gauge test instruction booklet. If you come back and the gauge reads less than you started, then mostly likely you have a leak in the radiator system such as a head gasket, loose hose clamp, warped head & possibly but not likely a cracked head or hole in liner.I would not run the tractor any longer than to get the problem figured out. Make sure that if you get a Radiator Pressure tester gauge that it is properly seated on the top of the radiator to insure no faulse leaks.

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Scot

09-19-2002 05:50:58




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 Re: Re: oil in coolant on 255 Massey in reply to Fieldman12, 09-19-2002 00:41:52  
There are no bubbles coming out of the coolant or white smoke from the exhaust. The coolant was down about a gallon. I wonder if it is possible the coolant was just low and very dirty? I have only had the tractor for a year and have never flushed the coolant.



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Fieldman12

09-20-2002 00:18:09




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 Re: Re: Re: oil in coolant on 255 Massey in reply to Scot, 09-19-2002 05:50:58  
It is possible that their could be some gunk in the radiator especially for its age. Low coolant would also make it overheat. Remember don't fill the radiator up to the neck because you will need some room for coolant expansion. This tractor has no overflow tank to put the coolant in like a car or truck so will spit the extra coolant out on the ground until it reaches it's desired level. I usually try to leave mine about an inch below the neck so it is not wasting coolant.

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mike

09-19-2002 22:24:04




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 Re: Re: Re: oil in coolant on 255 Massey in reply to Scot, 09-19-2002 05:50:58  
Everyone's advice is real good, but if you were low onfluid in the first place pray that you did not overheat the motor. do the simplest and cheapest things first drain and flush the cooling system the best you can. replace that coolant with a good 50/50 mix of antifreeze and water, or whatever is required not to freeze in your locale.Check fluid levels,run that tractor and check its fluid levels first thing, again when it is cold. The damage has been done if any already anyway. If you find oil in that radiator again get ready for an overhaul oil pressure always exceeds water pressure. thats why it goes in the radiator or so I'm told.Watch that radiator boil over tube for oil instead of coolant or steam. if its oil you'll know the verdict. Good luck.

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Scot

10-10-2002 05:43:46




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: oil in coolant on 255 Massey in reply to mike, 09-19-2002 22:24:04  
Thanks for the advice. It turned out to be rust in the coolant. It probably hasn't been flushed in many years.



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