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01-17-2000 10:50:16




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Its amazin' what you can learn off this board. Let me throw out another rookie question.

I have a MF135, Perkins diesel. On the bottom of the transmission, directly under the bell housing is a plate attached with four bolts, one on each corner. I've managed to lose two of the four bolts. I'm leaking now from there and it seems to be hydraulic fluid. It has a touch of diesel smell to it as well, but that could be from seepage from the fuel filter area. I'm pretty sure its fluid.

My first question is, should it have fluid there at all? I've looked at the I&T manuel and although it has an exploded view, its not real clear on the bottom of the transmission. I'm wondering if theres a seal gone, letting the fluid into this area.

The second question is, if I decide to replace the gasket on this plate instead of just screwing in the missing bolts, are there any surprises waiting on me inside? I know when taking the top plate off there are springs to be depressed and shifter pins to be driven out. Is there anything like that on the bottom side or is it just an access port?

Thanks for the continuing education.

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Gerald J.

01-17-2000 20:44:20




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 Re: It leaks! in reply to Rookie, 01-17-2000 10:50:16  
Those four bolts are also used to hold the rear loader bracket. There's nothing special about them other than they are 5/8 x 1-1/2 grade 5. If you take the plate off and pieces fall out those are broken pieces of the clutch. That's not good news.

Oil can come from the flywheel seal of the engine, from the shafts of the transmission or the multipower valve. Engine oil may be different character than transmission oil, like black when dirty.

The 135 concentric transmission input shafts wear and the seal leaks. Fixing it requires splitting the tractor, and getting new shafts and seals or getting the grooves that are worn in the old shafts welded up and ground back to diameter and new seals.

There are some o-ring seals on the multipower valve. It can't be accessed until the tractor is split at the clutch. It leaks worse when the multipower is in high range, because that's when there's pressure on the multipower plumbing.

Most MF tractor owners watch the oil level and the amount of drip and keep running until the oil on the floor gets too annoying, then we fix it. My 135 was fixed 12 years ago, maybe 800 hours ago and drips a little. I suspect the multipower valve because that wasn't fixed.

The bother of splitting delays much work in that area. There should be a hole in the bottom of the bell housing under the clutch with a cotter key in it to let oil leaks out.

I think maybe the crankshaft seal might be replace after pulling the pan without splitting the tractor to remove the flywheel, but I've not tried it.

Gerald J.

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Mark

01-17-2000 14:32:14




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 Re: It leaks! in reply to Rookie, 01-17-2000 10:50:16  

Sounds like the cover your describing is the clutch inspection plate, under the bellhousing. If oil is leaking out, a seal is leaking. How much oil is leaking? If you don't fix the leak oil could get on the clutch. No oil should be in the bellhousing. I do not think anything will jump out at you when you take the cover off.



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Gregg

03-19-2000 18:50:42




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 Re: Re: It leaks! in reply to Mark, 01-17-2000 14:32:14  
I have an 85 Massey with an E223 Continental gas engine that need rebuilding. I have found another 85 with the hydraulic pump out but a good E243gas angine. Will they swap out even?



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