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MH 30 Ground and 6 to 12 volt

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Tom S.

03-25-2002 10:21:03




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I am slowly working to get my '49' MH 30 RC running. I just noticed by the manual that it was originally a positive ground, 6 volt system.
Has anyone converted this to a negative ground system?
And, I'd like to go to 12 volt. I'm assuming the starter, distributor and points will work, and that the coil, condenser and generator are the only things which will need changing.
Anyone out there that has made these conversions that can shed some light?

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BlueLite

03-25-2002 19:58:35




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 Re: MH 30 Ground and 6 to 12 volt in reply to Tom S., 03-25-2002 10:21:03  
See Archives, 12Volt Step by Step Conversion.
That's where I did my conversion on my MH30 1951
and works great. There's a diagram provided and it's accurate.

I would recommend only 2 things that aren't mentioned if you go this route.

First don't tie all your terminals to the under dash (cover) components as shown in the diagram, use a terminal block made of 3/4 in plywood. The reason is that the space is small and your using heavy gauge wiring and your instruments are delicate. The terminal points are pretty close together some just 1/2in apart. Cut a piece 3in by 4in and a piece of innertube the same size. Put the tube under the block and drill a hole for a screw that will hold the block to the air breather tube plate. Countersink the head a little in the block. Next take the rubber off and turn the block upside down and drill 3 holes 1in apart. These are your terminal bolts. Countersink to bury heads past surface level. Put a generous dab of epoxy cement in each hole and put a bolt in each of the 3 holes. Put a nut on and screw down tight. Put the rubber on again and put a bolt in through the rubber and block and attach to the air bracket. The rubber prevents the heads of the last 3 terminal bolts from grounding to the frame by accident. Now you have 3 terminal connectors that you tie wires to. Put on locking washers on all connections and when your done, spray with electrical varnish to protect from moisture, or you can even devise a cover for it. Another advantage is that if ever you have to seperate the frame all you have to do is detach at the block instead of fiddling under the dash cover. Second is to use a 60 Amp Ammeter instead of
the original 30 Amp.

Your original starter will work fine on the 12V but should not be cranked for long periods.

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Alberta Mike

03-25-2002 14:56:02




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 Re: MH 30 Ground and 6 to 12 volt in reply to Tom S., 03-25-2002 10:21:03  
Most guys that change over to 12V go to an automotive (usually GM) alternator. Personally, I prefer the looks of a generator on an older tractor and there are lots of old 12V generators (- ground) that you can choose from, say GM from the early 60's, etc. I'm not sure how the slow RPM of a tractor engine affects a 12V generator from that era for output. I know a lot of guys here mention the fact that you've got to run a smaller pulley on an alternator conversion to get the RPM's up for it to work efficiently. Meanwhile, I think that if a 6V system is set up properly and the engine and wiring is in good shape, I prefer the old 6V system. Even up here where it's cold at times, a well-maintained 6V system seems to start those old tractors just fine.

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