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Is there an Industrial board out there ?

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Tim

03-20-2002 00:24:35




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I have a 75 MF 40 Ind and a 71 Case 580 Ck that I need parts and info on, and this and most other sites I have found seem to be all AG related. Thanks Tim




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Big Dean

03-22-2002 18:29:10




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 Re: Is there an Industrial board out there ? in reply to Tim, 03-20-2002 00:24:35  
Hey Tim something's that might help you get parts for your MF40. From the transmission back the MF40 is the same as the MF165 The shuttle shift transmission is the same ones used in all the Industrial tractors. The Manual shuttle is also used in the MF135 & MF245 orchard tractors. The engines are the same engines used in the MF135 tractors, hope this will help some.

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Mike C.

03-22-2002 08:42:07




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 Re: Is there an Industrial board out there ? in reply to Tim, 03-20-2002 00:24:35  
Tim,
The best way to get what your looking for is to do it yourself. On the left hand column go to tractor manuals and find the "parts manual" for your tractor and identify the part that you need yourself. When you talk to the dealer, give them the part number you looked up and you will have made their job so much easier that they will bend over backwards trying to help you.

I recently visited my local AGCO dealer and he was thrilled that I had the parts manual and wanted to know where I got it from so that he could tell other customers.

As mentioned in the other follow ups, there are some differences on some of the parts so be carefull about ordering on line. For example, I have a MF 202 ind and according to my parts manual, there are four hydrolic pumps used based on the serial number. Online, parts places reference my model number only with one pump available and the differences are obvious enough that they are not interchangeable. This could potientialy be a $500.00 mistake. Although, the majority of the parts (mechanically at least) match up with an AG version which makes for a better chance of finding the necessary part.

Education is your best friend. Learn all that you can find out about your tractors and learn how to tell the differences between serial number ranges of you model so that you get the correct parts the first time.

Good luck and hope this helps.

Mike C.

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Tyler(WA)

03-20-2002 10:29:54




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 Re: Is there an Industrial board out there ? in reply to Tim, 03-20-2002 00:24:35  
Agco can handle both industrial and Ag. parts for your MF. There's usually little difference except for a little stronger front end and yellow paint. A foot throtle, maybe.



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Tim

03-21-2002 01:20:22




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 Re: Re: Is there an Industrial board out there ? in reply to Tyler(WA), 03-20-2002 10:29:54  
No offense my friend but you have much to learn about INDUSTRIALS just talk to any construction co or ind. dealer and you will find out so very much. Thanks for the tip on AGCO but they dont have much for our older tractors.



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Tyler(WA)

03-21-2002 08:26:12




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 Re: Re: Re: Is there an Industrial board out there ? in reply to Tim, 03-21-2002 01:20:22  
Pardon my ignorance. I just learned what I know from owning and maintaining my industrial tractor and I can get most any part at the same store the Ag. tractors use. Most of the older "Industrial" tractors are modifications to Agricultural models. That's why the MF 2135 industrial, looks so much like a yellow MF 135. About 95% of the parts are the same.

I'm not very educated on these things so I just asked a friend who owns a commercial heavy equipment business and has been maintaining industrial equipment since he started working with his dad at 12 years old. I took his advice because it works for me as well as it has for him.

If you insist on being special, there is always someone to take your money.

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Tim

03-22-2002 00:42:19




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Is there an Industrial board out there ? in reply to Tyler(WA), 03-21-2002 08:26:12  
Tyler, perhaps I am the ignorant one ( I really did NOT mean to offend you ) It just seems every time I talk to an AG dealer they dont know what I need when I say Industrial, If only I could find a dealer or aftermarket Co. that knew how to cross ref the parts I would get what I need or better yet if I knew how to do it myself. I really like my older tractor and I think it will work well as long as I can get parts and I cant stand the idea of spending 60,000.00 for a new one or buying a cheap alternitive. anyway again sorry for the choice of words I want to make friends on this board and I do have alot to learn. Best to you and yours Tim.

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Tim

03-22-2002 00:41:07




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Is there an Industrial board out there ? in reply to Tyler(WA), 03-21-2002 08:26:12  
Tyler, perhaps I am the ignorant one ( I really did NOT mean to offend you ) It just seems every time I talk to an AG dealer they dont know what I need when I say Industrial, If only I could find a dealer or aftermarket Co. that knew how to cross ref the parts I would get what I need or better yet if I knew how to do it myself. I really like my older tractor and I think it will work well as long as I can get parts and I cant stand the idea of spending 60,000.00 for a new one or buying a cheap alternitive. anyway again sorry for the choice of words I want to make friends on this board and I do have alot to learn. Best to you and yours Tim.

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Tyler(WA)

03-22-2002 07:30:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Is there an Industrial board out there ? in reply to Tim, 03-22-2002 00:41:07  
I've got too thick of skin (and head) to get offended that easy. No problem here.

You said you have a '75 MF-40. That may be a bit newer than the rules I'm talking about. My MF-2135 is from the mid 60's and is built on the MF-135 AG tractor with a stronger front end to handle constant loader work. If the AG 135 has a single weekness, it's a week front end. Besides that, the industrial has a foot throtle and yellow paint. Same engine, PTO, filters, wheels..... The local dealers would love to sell me "industrial" parts but after you look at 'em with a "who you tryin' ta kid?" expression, they'll tell you there's no difference between these and AG parts except the Part Number and the price.

Later years saw an increased use and need for specialized industrial equipment and it became a market large enough to see equipment that had no Ag. equivelent. That was probably about the time the farmer started drifting into the museums of American history.

Give a shout to Big Dean. He's got a web page for MF's and lists several Industrials there. What you need to do is find the AG tractor that your industrial is built on (if they did that with your model) and then learn what they did to it to call it industrial.

Big Dean was a MF factory rep. If he doesn't know the answer to your Massey Ferguson question, you must have a different tractor.

At least your engine is standard. I don't know of any difference between power plants of Ind. vs. Ag.

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