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Rookie Needs pointed in rite direction...

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John C.

12-22-1999 02:47:11




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Looking to buy a tractor soon. What I will be doing is mostly moving dirt for landscaping on our 5 acres. Discing about 2 acres and the big project of rebuilding a earthen dam (about 75ft X 35ft wide)
Would also like to have something that would work good for mowing and fence post digging (to possible defer the cost by hiring out).
What I have found that I like so far is a MF-135 it is gas and Yellow, so I asume it's an industial model? same person has a Diesel 135 thats Red. Have not seen this tractor so I can't tell the differences. He also has a used loader that he says will fit on either one.
Questions:
1. Would this be big enough HP wise?
2. Price is 2500 for Yellow Gas and 2750 for Red Diesel. Which would be better since price is close to each other?
3. Price for the loader is $750.00 I install it.
4. I think the HP is around 35HP on each, I this correct?
5. I think it would be the perfect size for the everyday lite stuff, but would it work on the Damm project? I know slower than a big machine, but I have the time, just don't want to overwork the tractor.

Sorry for the long post Thanks alot
John C.
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Moye

12-22-1999 20:01:10




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 Re: Rookie Needs pointed in rite direction... in reply to John C., 12-22-1999 02:47:11  
I'm probably going to start something here, but a 135 with a loader is mighty small to do much. Back in the old days (1960's) we built an earth dam pond with an 8N Ford and a 1/2 yd pan. Took several years working on it a little at a time, but the pond still holds water and has some good fish in it today. For the landscaping, a front end loader is a very handy tool and I would strongly reccommend it for any tractor, but be careful, especially with this small of a tractor. If you use it properly and move small stuff carefully and not use it as a bulldozer, it can be the greatest tool you have. Wish I had one. I love my diesal. And yes, 35 hp is about right for these tractors. Finally, does it have live PTO and hydraulics. I thought all 135's did until a friend bought one that did not. Moye

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bbott

12-22-1999 11:57:56




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 Re: Rookie Needs pointed in rite direction... in reply to John C., 12-22-1999 02:47:11  
How big's the landscaping project ?

If it's just moving and shoving some
stuff around,then the MF135 will do fine.

If you're moving mountains... then the other
advice fits.. a small farm machine with a bucket isn't suited for earthmoving.

For a 1 shot job like the dam, your're better off renting the proper equipment (cat ? excavator ?) and getting it done with... then use the MF135 for your daily chores...

I'd get the diesel.

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Sam from Jawja

12-22-1999 09:47:50




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 Re: Rookie Needs pointed in rite direction... in reply to John C., 12-22-1999 02:47:11  
John, What part of the country are you in? The prices you have there seem awful good to me. I paid twice that for a 135 diesel here in Georgia 6 months ago and although I didn't feel like I got an especially good deal, I didn't feel ripped off either.

I'm still happy with my diesel, but cold weather starts are not a factor with me. If its that cold, I'll sit by the fire! :-)

Good luck!

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John C.

12-22-1999 11:46:18




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 Re: Re: Rookie Needs pointed in rite direction... in reply to Sam from Jawja, 12-22-1999 09:47:50  
Hi: I am in N. California so cold starts would not be a problem. The gas one does have a 3pt and I believe a pto. I am going over there this afternoon to take a closer look.
Thanks for the replies.
John C.



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Gerald J.

12-22-1999 07:52:35




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 Re: Rookie Needs pointed in rite direction... in reply to John C., 12-22-1999 02:47:11  
The 135 with a sturdy loader is NOT the way to move dirt. I've tried it. The 236 loader I have is too strong and will lift enough that the tractor has no traction. Even with a custom short bucket that's displaced towards the tractor to give the tractor a better shot. Also the front axle can break, I've not done it but mine was broken before I bought it.

The only way to successfully MOVE dirt with the MF-135 is using a three point trip bucket, such as sold for the Ford 8N. Its far more controllable and doesn't tip the tractor up on two wheels when loaded. But at 6 cubic feet per load its not rapid. A bucket scraper works too.

The gas will be easier to start in the winter and the diesel will use a bit less fuel. The one with the differential lock will work better in dirt and mud. Eventually you will want a PTO and three point for mowing all of that. The gas, if four cylinders has a rocker arm wear problem and parts are hard to find. But it is repairable, I did that to mine last year.

The internal hydraulic pump is on the slow side, if in good shape, its better to run the loader on a separate hydraulic system running off a shaft connected to the engine crankshaft pulley. Then you don't have to take the loader running on a PTO pump, off the tractor to mow or to use something requiring the remote hydraulics, IF either tractor has extra hydraulic connections which were not standard equipment and are no longer available from aftermarket makers.

I sure hope that when I get mine ready to sell that the market for them hasn't fallen that far!

That 236 loader fits my JD4020 just fine and digs dirt like a bulldozer. The extra 50 hp and 5000 pounds makes a difference.

Gerald J.

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John Miller, III

12-28-1999 18:35:44




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 Re: Re: Rookie Needs pointed in rite direction... in reply to Gerald J., 12-22-1999 07:52:35  
Wow...Great prices on both tractors! Why not buy both, see which one you like best and believe me, you could sell the other and not lose a dime. If the gas is a Perkins, great block, if it's a Continental well down a peg or two.

I've got a MF135 with a trip-loader and works fine. The 135 is a well rounded tractor. Economy, longevity, reliable... what more could you ask for.

Good luck in your decision.
John

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rod

12-22-1999 09:17:54




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 Re: Re: Rookie Needs pointed in rite direction... in reply to Gerald J., 12-22-1999 07:52:35  
Some of the yellow industrial MF do not have a three point hitch as some had a backhoe attachment on them also a diesel can cost big bucks if the fuel system screws up look for leaks from both and run engines to warm up watch for smoke or rattle noise run both in gear for a distance and preferably try to put load on engine and trans. When you park after this try to put in different spot look for drips after a few minutes. The few hundred you save can easily be eaten up in repairs.

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rod

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Jake

12-26-1999 19:03:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Rookie Needs pointed in rite direction... in reply to rod, 12-22-1999 09:17:54  

Id Get the Diesel . Cold start's ? i have seen Diesel's start far better than a Gasoline engine @ -12



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