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Massey 135 converson to electric

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Ellery Deuville

01-01-1999 14:27:46

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I have converted a massey 135 tractor over to electric to use to flood our ice surface so that we can eliminate the gasses associated with the propane run engine that we also run (massey 230).
With the electric motor we were no longer able to run the internal hydraulic pump and are using an external electric pump to run our hydraulic requirements. I would like to be able to use the three point hitch and would like some feedback on a plan I am about to try. I welded the small hole on the hydraulic cover ( where you can install a two way valve) the hole was the one that the small pipe from the internal pump went. After welding the hole closed and bolting back on I am going to run a line from the external pump to the pressure port via the side high pressure port just under the seat. I am hoping that the upper system will pressurize and because the line to the pump is closed the port to the internal three point hitch cylinder will also be pressurized and thus raise the zamboni. I have tried this before but had a bad valve and I decided to switch direction and went to an external cylinder, however the zamboni does not raise high enough ad I am going to try the three point hitch again as it will raise high enough if the prceedure will work. My external pump is off a forklift and is a heavy motor/pump combo that I believe should give me the hydraulics I need.
Sorry for the long note but I believe the more that is known the better the answers I will get.
We also just had our steering column on the 135 go and our crank on the 230 has went and can't be turned. Any suggestions for replacement parts around our area of Nova Scotia Canada?
Thanks for your time, and welcome your comments Ellery

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Gerald

01-01-1999 15:05:16

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Re: Massey 135 converson to electric in reply to Ellery Deuville, 01-01-1999 14:27:46

I was able to rebuild pieces of my steering system on my MF-135 a lot cheaper than buying parts from MF.

The trouble with your proposed hydraulic scheme is that the lift is controlled from the pump, not away from there. Without the auxiliary valve assembly the pump output goes direct to the lift cylinder and the lifting or lowering is done by controlling the intake valves of the pump. So you will have a direct line to the cylinder when you shut off that line and feed the pressure tap, and to lower you will have to turn off the electric pump (which needs a pressure release valve so you don't blow pump and lift cylinder seals) and let the load spin the pump backwards. If the pump has a reasonable output so it doesn't try to lift too fast it should work this way. The orginal system pumped about 2350 PSI if I remember the manual right. And the original flow is 4 gpm. If you get much more than that from your new pump, you might find it hard to control the lift rate and stops.

Gerald

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Rollo

12-01-1999 09:34:30

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Re: Re: MF-35 lights in reply to Elmer, 11-21-1999 15:54:05

Try Gap tractor,Crandfields Gap Tx.

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Gerald

01-02-1999 08:45:11

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Re: Re: Re: Massey 135 converson to electric in reply to Ellery, 01-01-1999 19:00:10

Yes I think that will feed the cylinder directly. Without the hole from the internal pump plugged the oil would flow down back through the internal pump. I think this because one crude way of using the internal pump is to tie down the three point and take pressure out that pressure tap to run external cylinders. When you drop on an adapter valve like my 135 has I'm fairly sure that what happens is that pressure tap is run through a valve (on the three handle) to select 3 point cylinder or auxiliary valves. There's a 2 handle version I have a manual on from MF that doesn't have the selector valve and then you have to lock the three point independently. A lot like tapping the hydraulics of an 8N.

Rather than weld a hole, I'd lift that valve cover and either put in a plug on the feed side, because there must be a pressure line up into the block and then a cylinder feed line, or make another block to bolt down plumbed my way so I could have a direct connection to they cylinder. The accessory valves just bolt in place of the front cover so there's two holes there. I'd have to go to the bedroom to look at the parts book and the I&T book to prove my assertions.

Gerald

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